Last-second shot

[deecee]

Ouch, not even close. To answer your 2 questions.

1. I have no frickin clue.
2. Ill listen to what my partner has to say and depending on his information mixed with my confidence of the call it depends. I mean I've had partners run over to tell me something that was right because they had a crappy angle and missed what happened later or on 50/50 calls (ie. strong side rebounding action pass on foul and award ball OOB where they come in and say, "didn't you see it hit red #xx" and I say, "didnt you see the foul on white #xx that i passed on"), so it depends.
2a. It also depends on my confidence with my partner.

[Raymond]

This a play where the 2 other officials cannot be afraid of hurting their partner's feelings.

I once had a bonehead play where I waved off an end of 1st quarter shot as the tableside trail. When I started off the halftime discussion by immediately apologizing to the crew, both my partners said I got it wrong. I really wished one those two would have stepped up when I made the call instead of waiting until we were in the locker room.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by deecee

Ouch, not even close. To answer your 2 questions.

1. I have no frickin clue.
2. ...pass on foul and award ball OOB where they come in and say, "didn't you see it hit red #xx" and I say, "didnt you see the foul on white #xx that i passed on"), so it depends.
2a. It also depends on my confidence with my partner.

Why would you EVER pass on a foul? (Your words.) I understand passing on contact if it doesn't cause a disadvantage, but what you wrote is just bizarre.
Please either call a foul or award the ball to the team which didn't touch it last.

Doing otherwise is unfair.

[HokiePaul]

I think he (incorrectly) thinks the ball hit the basket support after the initial bounce. That explains the 3 point signal and wave off.

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

I think he (incorrectly) thinks the ball hit the basket support after the initial bounce. That explains the 3 point signal and wave off.

nevermind ... I see one angle where he begins to wave off the shot before the ball hits the rim ... I'm not sure what he's thinking either.

Anyone know how this was resolved ... It looks like he was going to discuss with the Trail. Was the call changed?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Anyone know how this was resolved ... It looks like he was going to discuss with the Trail. Was the call changed?

I guess I should've mentioned that in the OP.

Nope, the call was not changed.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Why would you EVER pass on a foul? (Your words.) I understand passing on contact if it doesn't cause a disadvantage, but what you wrote is just bizarre.
Please either call a foul or award the ball to the team which didn't touch it last.

Doing otherwise is unfair.

I meant on passing on contact that could be a foul depending on advantage/disadvantage.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

I meant on passing on contact that could be a foul depending on advantage/disadvantage.

That is completely the opposite of what you said. You said you'd pass on the foul and give the ball to the wrong team. The old "saving a foul" mentality. If that's expected in your area (and it may well be), that's fine. But there's no point in trying to change what you said. That's not an advantage/disadvantage call. If anything, you're applying the A/D to the OOB play and just skipping the foul to give the ball to the right team.

No rules backing for this, but there may be this expectation where you work.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

That is completely the opposite of what you said. You said you'd pass on the foul and give the ball to the wrong team. The old "saving a foul" mentality. If that's expected in your area (and it may well be), that's fine. But there's no point in trying to change what you said. That's not an advantage/disadvantage call. If anything, you're applying the A/D to the OOB play and just skipping the foul to give the ball to the right team.

No rules backing for this, but there may be this expectation where you work.

From what I've seen that expectation has gone away b/c of......what for it........YouTube.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

From what I've seen that expectation has gone away b/c of......what for it........YouTube.

Yep, too many phone cameras.

Peace