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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 01:27pm
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Setting the stage for the following clip.....Game is in overtime with about 7 seconds left. Red team just got a bucket and a foul to tie the game at 60, with a free throw to come that will give them the lead. From there I'll leave it up to you fellas to do your job of breaking it down and sharing your thoughts/advice. Thanks.

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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 01:37pm
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What's the issue? Looked ok to me, though I couldn't hear exactly when the buzzer went off.
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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 01:48pm
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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 01:50pm
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Ball is out of his hands. Count it.

Though I think the clock started early after the FT.
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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 01:51pm
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Red team's bench personnel shouldn't be standing during the FT attempt.

White team's bench personnel shouldn't be standing during the final shot attempt.

Other then that, I don't see any problems.
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red team's bench personnel shouldn't be standing during the ft attempt.

White team's bench personnel shouldn't be standing during the final shot attempt.

Other than that, i don't see any problems.
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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 01:53pm
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From what I could tell, the shot was released prior to the buzzer. None of the officials seemed to have a problem with it and one of them signaled a valid three point shot.

What exactly is your question? Did you think the shot went off late or perhaps the table didn't start the clock promptly?
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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 01:57pm
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... one of them signaled a valid three point shot.
Actually, two made the signal. And one held it so long it was like he was posing for a picture.
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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 02:02pm
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Trail opposite need not signal 3 point attempt out of his area.
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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 02:42pm
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Looked good to me, loved how one reff at the end had to almost run to get away from the crowd!
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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 02:46pm
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Trail opposite need not signal 3 point attempt out of his area.
If he's responsible for the last second shot, he might do it.
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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 02:59pm
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Trail opposite need not signal 3 point attempt out of his area.
Don't think he did signal a 3...looks like he put his hand up at the horn as he was opposite table and had clock responsibilities...and then he mirrored the made 3 point signal, which he should do.

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Old Wed Jan 12, 2011, 11:17pm
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Setting the stage for the following clip.....Game is in overtime with about 7 seconds left. Red team just got a bucket and a foul to tie the game at 60, with a free throw to come that will give them the lead. From there I'll leave it up to you fellas to do your job of breaking it down and sharing your thoughts/advice. Thanks.

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Clark,
I watched the clip again this time focusing on officials, the only thing that I noticed is on the free throw, the trail official is not watching the three players that are in the backcourt because he's too close to the shooter. I was taught to hang back by the division line so I can see the remaining players if some are away from the front court during a free throw. The last varsity game I was working, my partner actually saw and called the foul on a player for kneeing his opponent right in the arse! This foul occurred behind the division line during a free throw! Great catch! I hope to see some more of your excellent videos like last year. It has been a great help to me to see what everybody else sees and hear how reffs (not time keepers) would call particular fouls, violations, etc. Good Luck! LW

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Old Thu Jan 13, 2011, 02:10pm
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Thanks fellas. I just like reading your thoughts and comments.

When I put the last 3 seconds to a stop watch i consistently got just over 3.0 seconds, although it is hard to tell exactly when the ball is touched because of the camera panning out. In real time it seems pretty evident to me that the shot was released prior to the horn.

The other thing I thought you fellas might critique was where the ball was at then the timeout was called in relation to where they inbounded the ball in at or is that even a big deal?
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Old Thu Jan 13, 2011, 02:33pm
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Thanks fellas. I just like reading your thoughts and comments.

When I put the last 3 seconds to a stop watch i consistently got just over 3.0 seconds, although it is hard to tell exactly when the ball is touched because of the camera panning out. In real time it seems pretty evident to me that the shot was released prior to the horn.

The other thing I thought you fellas might critique was where the ball was at then the timeout was called in relation to where they inbounded the ball in at or is that even a big deal?
You couldn't tell where ball was inbounded. Looks like it should have been in backcourt 5-6 feet. Trail official runs in on last second clip from what appears backcourt, although there might have been pressure to inbound and he stepped back. Really can't determine.

Wondering who granted timeout? I hear whistle but C looks like he didn't have it, yet has arm up. That said, Trail doesn't appear to be moving to table signalling time.

Game played in Utah, Clark?

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