ejection or T?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by deecee

F--- You = Have a nice day to me.

So, if someone says, "Have a nice day," do I say, "Hey!"

[deecee]

Originally Posted by grunewar

So, if someone says, "Have a nice day," do I say, "Hey!"

Have a nice day != F-- You

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

For me, rec league or no, the "F" gets him a generic T. The "you" upgrades it to a flagrant.

+1

For me, FU is the succinct superlative of the cuss-out, reserved for those you wished dead. Easy flagrant.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by yooperbballref

As im walking to the table another player on that team yells "F--- YOU!!!" to me. With out even thinking, I turn around and give him a T as well.

After the game, I had another official that was in the stands tell me that if he was in my position he would have given the seconds player a double T and ejected him from the game.

One additional thought from here in NJ: Do you really want to give that guy a chance to say that to you twice in the same game? Some things don't deserve a second chance.

[Andy]

Yelling, F-Bomb, "you" on the end of it....


Oh yeah...he's done for the evening.

[rekent]

Just out of curiosity: you all say you are not putting up with this in a rec league environment, so does that mean this is a regular T in scholastic games for most of you?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by rekent

Just out of curiosity: you all say you are not putting up with this in a rec league environment, so does that mean this is a regular T in scholastic games for most of you?

Honestly ... hell no. "F U" directed at me is going to be an ejection, pretty much on any day in any setting.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rekent

Just out of curiosity: you all say you are not putting up with this in a rec league environment, so does that mean this is a regular T in scholastic games for most of you?

I would say without the curse words, I might have taken care of that situation long before it got to that point. It is just a guess, but that was likely not the first incident of behavior that would border on disrespect. I have a shorter leash with any non-school sanctioned game.

Then again I would not work a Men's league game for these kinds of reasons. Even AAU is starting to get me to completely avoid those situations too.

Peace

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by deecee

F--- You = Have a nice day to me.

Originally Posted by deecee

Have a nice day != F-- You

Double

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Honestly ... hell no. "F U" directed at me is going to be an ejection, pretty much on any day in any setting.

Yep, +1

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

No. Sometimes we need some fanfare. Too bad the NFHS doesn't give us the "heave ho" signal, like they have in baseball.

That hasn't stopped me from using it. Official or not, it leaves no doubt as to what just happened.

An F--- you gets a ticket punched in my not so little corner of Southeast Texas.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Rooster

Double

Ha its programming speak. "!=" means not equal to. So what I am saying is that "x equals y" but "y doesn't equal x".

And sometimes equals would be "==" not just "=".

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would say without the curse words, I might have taken care of that situation long before it got to that point. It is just a guess, but that was likely not the first incident of behavior that would border on disrespect. I have a shorter leash with any non-school sanctioned game.

Then again I would not work a Men's league game for these kinds of reasons. Even AAU is starting to get me to completely avoid those situations too.

Peace

Agreed, AAU and even some youth rec leagues are having uniformed cops show up just for these situations. I helped out the local 15-under league, played now after all high school play is done, and had to throw out a parent, AFTER said "adult" was earlier warned and approached by game administrator and man with badge Don't know what this is coming to. The better officials do not want to work these games. It is a good training ground for the younger officials, provided they are working with or under proper supervision. However, some of the behavior seen could easily deter a promising young trainee and have him thinking: "screw this"

[rekent]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Agreed, AAU and even some youth rec leagues are having uniformed cops show up just for these situations. I helped out the local 15-under league, played now after all high school play is done, and had to throw out a parent, AFTER said "adult" was earlier warned and approached by game administrator and man with badge Don't know what this is coming to. The better officials do not want to work these games. It is a good training ground for the younger officials, provided they are working with or under proper supervision. However, some of the behavior seen could easily deter a promising young trainee and have him thinking: "screw this"

I'm beginning to rethink wanting to ref AAU this summer, hmm...

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by rekent

I'm beginning to rethink wanting to ref AAU this summer, hmm...

You should be ok if you feel it is a strong and well run AAU tourney or program, with plenty of administrative supervision and backing of officials. Not sure how you know this going in. A lot of trouble at these things also comes from using untrained volunteers, parents, even players to work the table, where a number of screwups (scoring/timing mistakes, and erroneous # fouls are the most common) can effect a games outcome and in the elimination bracket variety, this can really get people fired up. Guys in stripes take the heat for a lot of this when it is out of their control.