Michigan-Louisville shooting foul clip (Hancock/Burke 1st half)

[APG]

Defense doesn't want a foul called on him, close out better and jump straight up and down.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by APG

Defense doesn't want a foul called on him, close out better and jump straight up and down.

Or better yet, avoid any physical contact. Which, it appears, he did avoid doing.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Or better yet, avoid any physical contact. Which, it appears, he did avoid doing.

How did he change directions in mid-air then? Was there a big gust of wind? Or was it from the contact with the shooter?

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

How did he change directions in mid-air then? Was there a big gust of wind? Or was it from the contact with the shooter?

Sucked in his gut...curved his spine to make an inverted C.....I don't know how he did it, but the camera angles provided doesn't show any contact. Only results that lead the majority to think there must have been contact.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Sucked in his gut...curved his spine to make an inverted C.....I don't know how he did it, but the camera angles provided doesn't show any contact. Only results that lead the majority to think there must have been contact.

Sometimes, you don't get the camera angle you need and you have to go by the symptoms...and all the symptoms of contact were there. His path was one that would create contact. The defender's body reacted at exactly the right time as if there were contact. The shooter's body also display a reaction at the same time that was consistent with contact. All that says trust the official who has a better angle than the TV camera.

[JRutledge]

For the record there was another play where a Michigan player (I believe Robinson) did a fake and a UL player landed on Robinson after the fake. The difference is Robinson did not continue to shoot and dribbled to where he would get contact. The only difference was this play was earlier in the game (based on the thread title) and it involved a shooter. Both players IMO were properly called a foul on the defender for committing and not being an LGP when contact occurred.

Peace

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Sometimes, you don't get the camera angle you need and you have to go by the symptoms...and all the symptoms of contact were there. His path was one that would create contact. The defender's body reacted at exactly the right time as if there were contact. The shooter's body also display a reaction at the same time that was consistent with contact. All that says trust the official who has a better angle than the TV camera.

I hold myself to the following standard: Work your arse off to be in position to make calls (move to improve), BUT, never call what can't be seen (aka make shit up aka guessing/ASSuming).

If I can't tell a partner, assignor or a coach what I had - I'm not blowing my whisle.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

I hold myself to the following standard: Work your arse off to be in position to make calls (move to improve), BUT, never call what can't be seen (aka make shit up aka guessing/ASSuming).

If I can't tell a partner, assignor or a coach what I had - I'm not blowing my whisle.

Then why are you guessing on this one?

[APG]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Sucked in his gut...curved his spine to make an inverted C.....I don't know how he did it, but the camera angles provided doesn't show any contact. Only results that lead the majority to think there must have been contact.

If there was literally no contact like you're trying to say, you would see the defender have a much different reaction than what he showed.

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by APG

If there was literally no contact like you're trying to say, you would see the defender have a much different reaction than what he showed.

The defender showed no reaction other than stand there..... Now the UM coach and bench personnel, they had a reaction... looks kinda like a 'are you kidding me?' type reaction.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by APG

If there was literally no contact like you're trying to say, you would see the defender have a much different reaction than what he showed.

Wait a minute, now. I didn't say there wasn't any contact.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Sucked in his gut...curved his spine to make an inverted C.....I don't know how he did it, but the camera angles provided doesn't show any contact. Only results that lead the majority to think there must have been contact.

Unfortunately there's no angle from either endline to examine. From the angle above you can't tell if there is or isn't contact.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Unfortunately there's no angle from either endline to examine. From the angle above you can't tell if there is or isn't contact.

Didn't I just say that???

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Didn't I just say that???

And since you can't tell, you declare the call to be wrong????

[APG]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Or better yet, avoid any physical contact. Which, it appears, he did avoid doing.

Well you're going to be alone or in the minority in thinking that...definitely contact there IMO.