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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 09:56am
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Michigan-Louisville clip rebounding no call (6:51 2nd half)

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Lots of contact at 6:51...I would have liked to have seen a foul called.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 10:31am
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Foul, lets talk about the two travels on Dieng.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 10:44am
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Foul, lets talk about the two travels on Dieng.
Don't do that. Don't get off point. We have can't discuss travels on this play. Only the rebounding play.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 10:46am
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The C takes a step up instead of a step down towards the baseline and took himself out of that play. If he takes a step down I think he makes that travel call.....
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 10:58am
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I'd like to see the C get Dieng with a foul when 52 has two hands on the ball.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 11:11am
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I'd like to see the C get Dieng with a foul when 52 has two hands on the ball.
Agree. Also noticed the two travels on White 10 before he got a shot off.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 11:22am
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I just see a couple travels by Dieng, but no fouls.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 11:28am
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The C takes a step up instead of a step down towards the baseline and took himself out of that play. If he takes a step down I think he makes that travel call.....
the C might have had both #11's blocking his view on both travels
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 11:42am
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I'd like to see the C get Dieng with a foul when 52 has two hands on the ball.
I also would have liked to see the #52 foul on Dieng called.

It seemed to me like the players were getting more aggressive throughout that play and that a whistle would have been appropriate to keep it from escalating further.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 11:56am
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I also would have liked to see the #52 foul on Dieng called.

It seemed to me like the players were getting more aggressive throughout that play and that a whistle would have been appropriate to keep it from escalating further.
The play took care of itself with an OOB violation. There was no escalation.
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I see only one possible travel. I see a shooter not being able to shoot because the defense is all over the ball. Sorry, that is not a travel to me. And I love the "travel" guys because I see that missed all the time in regular high school games. I guess the guys get them all here.

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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 12:48pm
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I see only one possible travel. I see a shooter not being able to shoot because the defense is all over the ball. Sorry, that is not a travel to me. And I love the "travel" guys because I see that missed all the time in regular high school games. I guess the guys get them all here.

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When the player with the ball jumps and lands without releasing the ball, you have either a travel or a jump ball....not other choices if the rules are followed.

His other travel was switching the pivot foot before he dribbled....pretty clear too.

Maybe one day you'll move up from recognizing only middle school travels. THere is hope for you yet.
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the C might have had both #11's blocking his view on both travels
Exactly, but only because he stepped away from the play instead of towards it. Had he moved a little towards the baseline, then he would of had the best view/angle in the building....
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When the player with the ball jumps and lands without releasing the ball, you have either a travel or a jump ball....not other choices if the rules are followed.

His other travel was switching the pivot foot before he dribbled....pretty clear too.

Maybe one day you'll move up from recognizing only middle school travels. THere is hope for you yet.
Well it cannot be a travel if you do not have control of the ball. It cannot be a held ball unless you judge at the NCAA level that he had control of the ball on the way down. Once again, there is a debate we can have about how much control the UL player had during his move to the basket. The UL player does try to take on two players to shoot through. It is very likely the ball is being knocked around.

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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 01:02pm
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Well it cannot be a travel if you do not have control of the ball. It cannot be a held ball unless you judge at the NCAA level that he had control of the ball on the way down. Once again, there is a debate we can have about how much control the UL player had during his move to the basket. The UL player does try to take on two players to shoot through. It is very likely the ball is being knocked around.

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That's not the more noticeable travel. Dieng clearly travelled before he dribbled.
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