What it takes to get a technical foul (coaches perception)

[JeffM]

Originally Posted by zebraman

We don't?

It isn't expected by whom?

For example, I don't know of any official who gives a technical when a coach tries to influence a call.

I don't think giving a technical foul under those circumstances would be expected by the official's partner, the coach, or the fans.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JeffM

For example, I don't know of any official who gives a technical when a coach tries to influence a call.

I don't think giving a technical foul under those circumstances would be expected by the official's partner, the coach, or the fans.

If it's prolonged, I will. That's what's expected.
If it's repetitious, I will. That's what's expected.
Either of these will generally get a warning.

If it's once or twice a quarter ("That's a travel"), I don't generally pay attention.

[deecee]

Good to know that these adults think that there need to be 3 qualifiers

Cursing
Being out of control
and already have been warned

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JeffM

For example, I don't know of any official who gives a technical when a coach tries to influence a call.

I don't think giving a technical foul under those circumstances would be expected by the official's partner, the coach, or the fans.

Giving an exaggerated travelling signal after being warned about behavior?

Repeatedly slapping his own arm when he wants a foul call?

That would get a T ever in your games?

[JeffM]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Giving an exaggerated travelling signal after being warned about behavior?

Repeatedly slapping his own arm when he wants a foul call?

That would get a T ever in your games?

The exaggerated travelling signal after a warning earns a T.

Slapping his own arm deserves a warning...to be followed by a T if it is repeated.

But, I'm not giving a T the first time a coach yells "Three seconds" or even "over-the-back" Even though I know the coach is trying to influence the calls, I'm not giving him a T, even if there is a rule against it.

[MathReferee]

If this is the kind of behavior that is tolerated by AD's, then no wonder some coaches act the way they do. By tolerate, I mean not fire. Clearly the AD feels he punished but anything less than firing shows a level of tolerance IMO.

OTL: Rutgers' Rice Berates Players at Practice - YouTube

Sorry cant embed from my phone.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JeffM

The exaggerated travelling signal after a warning earns a T.

Slapping his own arm deserves a warning...to be followed by a T if it is repeated.

But, I'm not giving a T the first time a coach yells "Three seconds" or even "over-the-back" Even though I know the coach is trying to influence the calls, I'm not giving him a T, even if there is a rule against it.

Sounds like common sense to me. And nothing that will get much of an argument here...but you do realize that you are contradicting what you said before, right? You said you would not T for these things, but now you say you will T for these things...

[JeffM]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Sounds like common sense to me. And nothing that will get much of an argument here...but you do realize that you are contradicting what you said before, right? You said you would not T for these things, but now you say you will T for these things...

Thanks - I wasn't clear. I meant to say is that I wouldn't give a T the first time it happens. Once it became a nuissance, I would give a warning and then a T if it continued.

My point was that I think the rule book gives me too much leeway on what to tolerate. At the scholastic level, we wouldn't be expected to pass up a double dribble call the first time it happens, but we would be expected to pass on giving a T to a coach the first time they try to influence a call.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JeffM

Thanks - I wasn't clear. I meant to say is that I wouldn't give a T the first time it happens. Once it became a nuissance, I would give a warning and then a T if it continued.

My point was that I think the rule book gives me too much leeway on what to tolerate. At the scholastic level, we wouldn't be expected to pass up a double dribble call the first time it happens, but we would be expected to pass on giving a T to a coach the first time they try to influence a call.

There are other rules you're expected to use some discretion on.

10 seconds for free throw shooter.
3 seconds in the lane.
Those are universal.
Others that are regional/local: carrying with no pressure and no advantage, girls' heels over the lane line on free throws, the quick huddle with the FT shooter between FTs. There are others, I'm sure.