Trouble Bruin in the Pac-12 - & it Ain't UCLA!

[Judtech]

No one took him seriously. Even though the coach in question got a T. Some would argue a weak T. And wasn't it the first one of the year? I agree no one took him seriously about Cancun or 5k

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Judtech

No one took him seriously. Even though the coach in question got a T. Some would argue a weak T. And wasn't it the first one of the year? I agree no one took him seriously about Cancun or 5k

The only people saying it is weak are those that do not officiate after they heard these comments. I am not sure I have ever heard why he got the T but from the coach trying to say he did not curse. Now how many times have we all heard that line before?

Peace

[mutantducky]

He had to go. If you try to look at it objectively there was no way he could stay. Maybe some of his fellow refs didn't take his comment seriously but this is about the public trust in the Pac-12 and therefore he needed to get the boot/or leave.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The only people saying it is weak are those that do not officiate after they heard these comments. I am not sure I have ever heard why he got the T but from the coach trying to say he did not curse. Now how many times have we all heard that line before?

Peace

Didnt one of (or the) snitch officials say it was a weak T?

I 'd like to see the full tape of what led to the T.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Didnt one of (or the) snitch officials say it was a weak T?

I 'd like to see the full tape of what led to the T.

You mean anonymous source that did not claim he was on the game, but knew the official that gave the T personally? Then go to the media and tell them what I think but had no first hand knowledge? I guess that makes it weak by default.

Peace

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You mean anonymous source that did not claim he was on the game, but knew the official that gave the T personally? Then go to the media and tell them what I think but had no first hand knowledge? I guess that makes it weak by default.

Peace

No, it doesn't make it weak by default but it also doesn't make the only people calling it weak "those who do not officiate."

I have no idea if it was a weak T or not. Obviously I wasn't on the floor and I haven't even seen a full clip of the tape.

But like BNR said before, if Rush's comments arent out there then the T is a total non issue.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You mean anonymous source that did not claim he was on the game, but knew the official that gave the T personally? Then go to the media and tell them what I think but had no first hand knowledge? I guess that makes it weak by default.

Don't forget Tim Donaghy... he probably thought the tech was weak too. Of course, hard to really tell with the small TVs they have in jail.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Brad

Don't forget Tim Donaghy... he probably thought the tech was weak too. Of course, hard to really tell with the small TVs they have in jail.

I do not listen to that dirtbag so I have no idea what his take would be on this issue. But it is nice to know he had something to say.

Peace

[Berkut]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The only people saying it is weak are those that do not officiate after they heard these comments. I am not sure I have ever heard why he got the T but from the coach trying to say he did not curse. Now how many times have we all heard that line before?

Peace

Miller actually took as much responsibility in the press conference for it as was reasonable for him to take, I thought.

He said he should not have done anything to even make it possible to get a T, but that he didn't really understand what it was that justified it.

He wasn't saying "Hey, I didn't curse, so you should not T me!" He was saying (and I paraphrase) "I don't know what I did - I wasn't out of the box, I didn't curse, I didn't attack him verbally, I just said 'HE TOUCHED THE BALL!'"

Then he went into the famous "HE TOUCHED THE BALL" rant.

And he was right, btw - the UCLA player DID touch the ball.

Now, it turns out that it may be the case that Miller had heard about the comment made by Rush before the game, and hence before the press conference. Which would make it all a bit more interesting, and in which case I actually am pretty surprised Miller didn't flip out even more than he did in that press conference.

Great press conference...

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Berkut

I wasn't out of the box

Except he was.

Also, coaches always act like they have no idea what they did to receive a tech.

Originally Posted by Berkut

And he was right, btw - the UCLA player DID touch the ball.

Yes. He did. They kicked it big time. As a coach he should know that that play is not getting overturned —*it cannot be reviewed. Too bad, so sad. Yes, it sucks. There is nothing that can be done about it at that point ... so why keep yelling "HE TOUCHED THE BALL!!!"???

Maybe there should be a way to overturn that play ... I don't know. But until there is, there is no point in disputing it. That's on him.

Originally Posted by Berkut

Now, it turns out that it may be the case that Miller had heard about the comment made by Rush before the game, and hence before the press conference. Which would make it all a bit more interesting, and in which case I actually am pretty surprised Miller didn't flip out even more than he did in that press conference.

No way he knew. The Pac-12 tourney was in the middle of March —*this story just broke a few days ago.

I think refs talked to refs who talked to refs ... and someone talked to a buddy of his who is a sports writer and the article was written.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not sure I have ever heard why he got the T

The T was for being out on the floor*—*waving his arms around and yelling at the officials didn't help his cause either. You can see in the video that he is out about 3-4 feet on the floor ... then the video goes to replay ... then there is a whistle a few seconds later. So, not sure how far out on the court he got while protesting before getting whacked.