LeBron, Kirk Hirich of the Bulls, and a charging foul.

[APG]

I have a foul on the defender as his illegal contact occurs before the offensive player charges through the defender. Hirich isn't trying to keep the two of them from going to the floor...he wrapped up LeBron to make sure he couldn't get a shot off. This is one case were Jeff Van Gundy was correct in that if he didn't wrap up LeBron, he very well would have gotten the charge call.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by APG

I have a foul on the defender as his illegal contact occurs before the offensive player charges through the defender. Hirich isn't trying to keep the two of them from going to the floor...he wrapped up LeBron to make sure he couldn't get a shot off. This is one case were Jeff Van Gundy was correct in that if he didn't wrap up LeBron, he very well would have gotten the charge call.

I Think LeBron's shoulder was well into Hinrich's torso well before Hinrich wrapped him up. I'm going offensive here.

What really matters is, BULLS WIN!!!!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by APG

I have a foul on the defender as his illegal contact occurs before the offensive player charges through the defender. Hirich isn't trying to keep the two of them from going to the floor...he wrapped up LeBron to make sure he couldn't get a shot off. This is one case were Jeff Van Gundy was correct in that if he didn't wrap up LeBron, he very well would have gotten the charge call.

LeBron's shoulder was in Hinrich's chest before Hinrich's arms grabbed LeBron...charge at every level. I think the subsequent wrap up fooled the officials into seeing it as a block. They were coming up at the time of contact, but they were not grabbing anything yet.

[JRutledge]

Hirich was not displaced until he grabbed Lebron. I think I would have gone with the foul on Hirich too in this play. At least I am not convinced that LeBron would have fell on top of Hirich without the grab.

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