illegal dribble?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Answer keys are sometimes wrong.

So are forum members.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From the files of the Mythbusters:

When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor.

Are the Mythbusters wrong?

Your play is different from the one being discussed.

On the play: there's a FED case play to the effect that A1 attempts a pass, A2 runs away from the ball, A1 runs and gathers the ball. The ruling is (I think) that it became a dribble when A1 touched it.

So, if you *know* it's a dribble, get it right away (as in Camron's, lift pivot foot - release the ball - illegal contact by defender play). If you don't know (the case play, the OP), wait to see what happens.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From the files of the Mythbusters:

When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor.

Are the Mythbusters wrong?

No the Mythbusters would be correct.

-Josh

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You're missing my point. The only valid answer to the question is "unknown" or "so far". You may not know what it is until something else happens. But, if it is a dribble, it was, by definition, so the moment it left the hand. You just have to wait in order to know. The question is incomplete. If it it turns out that it was a dribble, the actual violation occurred when it was released. Returning to the hand just confirms that it was a dribble.

Gotcha. Semantically speaking, however, if it were written and rephrased as a true/false question, however, the answer would be "true."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From the files of the Mythbusters:

When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor.

Are the Mythbusters wrong?

Not the same play, Billy, because there is a key difference.

I also don't think this is a myth, since no one thinks this isn't a travel.

[Adam]

Just because a player throws a pass to an empty spot does not mean it wasn't a pass. The do it all the time out of ignorance and/or desperation. In the OP, I'm not calling it until the player touches it again and confirms that it was a dribble. If the erstwhile shooter doesn't even try to touch it, it was a pass.

This isn't to say I haven't blown this play out of anticipation.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

Not the same play, Billy, because there is a key difference.

I know that it's not the same exact play, but I still want to know if the statement is true, I believe that it is, but just want to double check:

When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor.