Richmond vs. Charlotte End of Game

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

A1 dribbles the ball. A1 intends to (a)while in the air, grab the ball with both hands, then (b) land in a jump stop, and then (c) jump to try for goal. (a reasonably standard play we see several times a game.)

During this move, however, A1 is fouled between steps (a) and (b).

If you use the "gathered" criterion (as I understand it to mean), you'd award two shots. If you use the "begins the habitual motion" you wouldn't -- the landing is one "move" and the "try for goal" is a second.

I think that's the difference, and I think the second interp is correct.

Ok. I guess we have different understandings of using the word "gathered". I would never use the word gathered to a coach in this play.

However, drive to basket. Player gathers the ball, or ( for Camron's benefit) the player is holding the ball and trying to bring it up, as they are fouled and then take one more step to lay it in...defensive coach wants an explanation on "the continuation". Simple answer - "He gathered the ball, Coach"

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Ok. I guess we have different understandings of using the word "gathered". I would never use the word gathered to a coach in this play.

However, drive to basket. Player gathers the ball, or ( for Camron's benefit) the player is holding the ball and trying to bring it up, as they are fouled and then take one more step to lay it in...defensive coach wants an explanation on "the continuation". Simple answer - "He gathered the ball, Coach"

I prefer to say "He started the shot". Always accurate rather than misleading. Gather, to me, is akin to over the back or reach. It communicates the wrong thing.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by camron rust

i prefer to say "he started the shot". Always accurate rather than misleading. Gather, to me, is akin to over the back or reach. It communicates the wrong thing.

+100

[OKREF]

Gathering the ball does not always constitute a shooting motion. Starting the shooting motion does. These are two different things.