Putting hands on official? (Video added)

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

He gave the official a shove(not a big one but still a shove) while proteszting his 1st T. He was then given the 2nd T for the shove and was DQ'ed(ejected) for 2 T's

So...watching the whole scene develop I don't believe White #4 shoved the official to protest the first T. I believe White #4 made contact with the official because he was trying to show him what Blue #11 did after the foul was called. Not the wisest move for sure but that's my view.

Take a look at Blue #11 on the sideline view right after he's called for the foul. He gives White #4 a little shove in the back. That's what led to White #4's first T for saying something to Blue #11. When the T is called White #4 looks to the official and tries to show him what Blue #11 did...again, not the best move on his part.

When I first watched the play the thing that jumped out at me was there wasn't really any anger on White #4's face as he approached/made contact with the official. I know, we're not psychologists out there but that didn't make sense to me if he was truly angry about the call.

[srp6977]

JetMetFan-
You are correct on all counts. But several times leading up to this point in the game #4 white was trash talking and was angrily gesturing and talking to the officials. They didn't take care of it early, so it escalated into what it did.

[paulsonj72]

For an interesting(to say the least) perspective from some people read the comments from the Chicago Tribune Story

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,1172517.story

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by srp6977

JetMetFan-
You are correct on all counts. But several times leading up to this point in the game #4 white was trash talking and was angrily gesturing and talking to the officials. They didn't take care of it early, so it escalated into what it did.

I just watched the game again and focused on White #4. Unless he was doing a heck of a lot of stuff off camera, I don't see any gesturing at officials and only one instance of trash talking: he was the other guy involved when Blue #55 got his T. BTW, Blue #55 should have had a couple calls against him while playing defense in the post in the first four minutes of the game.

At any rate, White #4 had two common fouls against him. Both were in the 2nd and he never reacted to the official. After the 2nd foul (a hand check), Blue #11 gave him a shove and the two may have had words. One thing I will say about that play is the calling official should have blown his whistle a few seconds earlier when White #4 had a locked arm against Blue #11's torso. If he gets that, the second hand check - and possibly Blue #11's reaction - don't happen.

I'm not trying to be the kid's attorney but the video doesn't support saying he was "trash talking and...angrily gesturing and talking to the officials." Obviously I wasn't there so maybe stuff happened off camera but he sure didn't do anything out of the ordinary in front of the bright lights.

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

For an interesting(to say the least) perspective from some people read the comments from the Chicago Tribune Story

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,1172517.story

"...making contact with the official's head with his own head."

Did he do it from the grassy knoll, too?