Buzzer Beater. Or Not?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I guess the guy who stayed too long likes to get yelled at. Why even address the coach after that anyway? You made the call, leave.

If you're going to gather with your partners to discuss the final shot, I don't see how a brief explanation to the coach hurts: "I heard the buzzer after the shot was released, Coach." Or, had it gone the other way, "The ball was still in his hands when the buzzer started, Coach."

I think just bolting off the floor when a coach is looking for an explanation sends the wrong message. What's wrong with keeping it brief, stating what happened, then getting off?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by bainsey

If you're going to gather with your partners to discuss the final shot, I don't see how a brief explanation to the coach hurts: "I heard the buzzer after the shot was released, Coach." Or, had it gone the other way, "The ball was still in his hands when the buzzer started, Coach."

I think just bolting off the floor when a coach is looking for an explanation sends the wrong message. What's wrong with keeping it brief, stating what happened, then getting off?

In this situation there was only one outcome that required staying on the floor: waving off the shot. If it's no good this game would've gone to OT. Why would I need to explain to the coach what I saw/heard if I scored the goal? That's going to be obvious and all being out there does is put me and the crew in harm's way.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bainsey

If you're going to gather with your partners to discuss the final shot, I don't see how a brief explanation to the coach hurts: "I heard the buzzer after the shot was released, Coach." Or, had it gone the other way, "The ball was still in his hands when the buzzer started, Coach."

I think just bolting off the floor when a coach is looking for an explanation sends the wrong message. What's wrong with keeping it brief, stating what happened, then getting off?

First, I feel pretty confident in saying the shot was no good.

Second, what possible good can come from talking to the coach at this point? What new information can you give to the coach that is going to clarify the situation for him? The coach is going to know what your judgement is by virtue of you counting or waving off the basket.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by APG

Second, what possible good can come from talking to the coach at this point? What new information can you give to the coach that is going to clarify the situation for him? The coach is going to know what your judgement is by virtue of you counting or waving off the basket.

I simply believe it's a matter of common courtesy. Assuming the coach hasn't been a jerk or uncivil in this game, I have no problem with a brief word, should he request one (and he probably will). I also don't like the message sent when we high-tail it off the court after any game (unless our safety is in danger), particularly in a situation such as this, where a partner conference was necessary. And bear in mind, you will likely run into that coach again.

JMF mentioned "harms way." Perhaps I just don't see enough harm in my little corner to be concerned about that. If there's a higher chance of danger in your part of Rome, I can certainly see that point.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I simply believe it's a matter of common courtesy. Assuming the coach hasn't been a jerk or uncivil in this game, I have no problem with a brief word, should he request one (and he probably will). I also don't like the message sent when we high-tail it off the court after any game (unless our safety is in danger), particularly in a situation such as this, where a partner conference was necessary. And bear in mind, you will likely run into that coach again.

JMF mentioned "harms way." Perhaps I just don't see enough harm in my little corner to be concerned about that. If there's a higher chance of danger in your part of Rome, I can certainly see that point.

If you feel there might be a need to speak to a coach in this situation you bring the 2 coaches together at the table BEFORE the decision is announced and explain what is about to happen.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If you feel there might be a need to speak to a coach in this situation you bring the 2 coaches together at the table BEFORE the decision is announced and explain what is about to happen.

Fair enough but even in this situation I'd say you don't need to. It's a shot at the buzzer that will either win the game or send it into overtime. If either of them isn't sure what is about to happen there's not much I can do about that.

Originally Posted by bainsey

I simply believe it's a matter of common courtesy. Assuming the coach hasn't been a jerk or uncivil in this game, I have no problem with a brief word, should he request one (and he probably will). I also don't like the message sent when we high-tail it off the court after any game (unless our safety is in danger), particularly in a situation such as this, where a partner conference was necessary. And bear in mind, you will likely run into that coach again.

JMF mentioned "harms way." Perhaps I just don't see enough harm in my little corner to be concerned about that. If there's a higher chance of danger in your part of Rome, I can certainly see that point.

It doesn't matter whether they've been a jerk, civil or an absolute angel. It's a potential end-of-game situation. There are two possible decisions and one of them results in his team losing the game immediately, meaning there's a 50% chance he and/or someone connected with his team - including a fan - is going to be very unhappy. There's no reason for the crew to stay out there once the game-ending decision is rendered. None.

The message we're sending when we exit the court is "the game is over." If a coach good enough to get his team to a championship game doesn't understand that, I can't help him. As to whether I run into that coach again: if he's going to be upset with me/my partners after the game and into the future, he's going to be upset regardless of whether we stand there and talk to him.

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If you feel there might be a need to speak to a coach in this situation you bring the 2 coaches together at the table BEFORE the decision is announced and explain what is about to happen.

And render the decision boxing/wrestling style....grab both coaches by the arm and raise up the arm of the winner....

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I simply believe it's a matter of common courtesy. Assuming the coach hasn't been a jerk or uncivil in this game, I have no problem with a brief word, should he request one (and he probably will). I also don't like the message sent when we high-tail it off the court after any game (unless our safety is in danger), particularly in a situation such as this, where a partner conference was necessary. And bear in mind, you will likely run into that coach again.

JMF mentioned "harms way." Perhaps I just don't see enough harm in my little corner to be concerned about that. If there's a higher chance of danger in your part of Rome, I can certainly see that point.

Common courtesy?! Really at this point? The coach was standing there for the entire discussion about 6-8 feet away and he was certainly not going to agree with counting the basket. That was clear from the video. Once the decision was made to score the basket, it is time to leave. Nothing the coach might have said was going to change it. Just another chance to get MF'd off the court.

Coach will figure it out when the referee's are gone.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I simply believe it's a matter of common courtesy. Assuming the coach hasn't been a jerk or uncivil in this game, I have no problem with a brief word, should he request one (and he probably will). I also don't like the message sent when we high-tail it off the court after any game (unless our safety is in danger), particularly in a situation such as this, where a partner conference was necessary. And bear in mind, you will likely run into that coach again.

JMF mentioned "harms way." Perhaps I just don't see enough harm in my little corner to be concerned about that. If there's a higher chance of danger in your part of Rome, I can certainly see that point.

Seems like a big waste of time that can only bring negative...he's either going to be happy or pissed off at you, and no amount of talking to the coach is going to change that. All you've done with your method, in this situation, would be to give the head coach a head start in ****in at you.

[MD Longhorn]

Game's over. Leave. You might not think there's danger - doesn't mean there isn't.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I simply believe it's a matter of common courtesy. Assuming the coach hasn't been a jerk or uncivil in this game, I have no problem with a brief word, should he request one (and he probably will). I also don't like the message sent when we high-tail it off the court after any game (unless our safety is in danger), particularly in a situation such as this, where a partner conference was necessary. And bear in mind, you will likely run into that coach again.

JMF mentioned "harms way." Perhaps I just don't see enough harm in my little corner to be concerned about that. If there's a higher chance of danger in your part of Rome, I can certainly see that point.

Game is over.....if he asks me something as I'm running by him....maybe "Coach,shot was good" Never breaking stride.

Nothing good will ever come out of a conversation that you allude to.