Philosophy question (video)...

[JetMetFan]

When I saw the contact I knew the call was going to be made, possibly because it was GV. I hoped there wouldn't have been a whistle for a couple of reasons:

*These are varsity players
*Even though the ball was knocked away from the player in White, she had three of her teammates standing right there...meaning it's not like the contact stopped a fast break.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

When I saw the contact I knew the call was going to be made, possibly because it was GV. I hoped there wouldn't have been a whistle for a couple of reasons:

*These are varsity players
*Even though the ball was knocked away from the player in White, she had three of her teammates standing right there...meaning it's not like the contact stopped a fast break.

I am not convinced the ball was illegally knocked out of the rebounder's hand. It looks like to me like players were going at the ball and it was not under control. And no one was knocked down and certainly not put at some serious disadvantage if there was some contact. The right team was going to get the rebound and this would have been a rather routine no-call IMO.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by maroonx

Excellent call.

What indept analysis.

Care to elaborate on your opinion?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What indept analysis.

Care to elaborate on your opinion?

Love the new word. And it fits.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What indept analysis.

Care to elaborate on your opinion?

I can't tell from the video whether it was a good call or not.

Did white have the ball and then red knocked it away? Did red's extended arm hold white down and prevent her from catching the rebound?

Did white "back out" red or did red "give way?"

Much more likely to have a no-call if white catches and controls the ball. Once it hits the floor though, then if Red hit the arm, or held the player, I think you need to get the foul (you can't wait to be sure white would pick up the ball).

[ballgame99]

There is minimal contact with the body, and the slap at the ball doesn't look like it got arm. Play on. Would your answer be different if the ball bounced to a red player who laid it in? I'm still not sure I would have a call.

[twocentsworth]

Contact that causes rebounder to lose ball.....this early in the game..... Foul.

IMHO, player control fouls and rebounding fouls early in a game help to make your game easier to work.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... incidental contact.

I wouldn't call it incidental. A patient whistle if there was possession consequence would be the right scenario. She fumbles the ball and loses it, blow, as in video, no.

That extra second would have allowed him to make right call.

Not the worst call. As Jeff said, a girls game call.

[#olderthanilook]

passgas

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

There is minimal contact with the body, and the slap at the ball doesn't look like it got arm. Play on. Would your answer be different if the ball bounced to a red player who laid it in? I'm still not sure I would have a call.

Sorry, you just can't tell that one way or the other from that video. We tend to default to assuming a conclusion that opposes the call as made in the video. I'm giving the official the benefit of doubt on this one. Short of getting the arm at all, there was no foul. I don't think he made that up. So, that leaves it to the question of individual possession consequence or team possession consequence.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What indept analysis.

Care to elaborate on your opinion?

inept or in depth..... probably going for inept?

or maybe indebt...my current state

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by fullor30

inept or in depth..... probably going for inept?

or maybe indebt...my current state

That's what I get for being a smart-a$$.

[rockyroad]

Girls game: I have no problem with them making this call. It appears there was contact on the arm that knocked the ball away from the White player. In Girls ball, those are the kinds of things that can quite often lead to more physical play on the next rebound...the defender now thinks she has to more aggressively "box out" to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Boys game: Play on.

[MD Longhorn]

No foul.

And if there IS a foul ... not calling this one.

[icallfouls]

Although the video quality is lacking, it looks like the player in red gets a hand on the middle to upper half of the ball making it difficult for white to secure the ball anyway. White did not have possession on the rebound, just inside position. Red is taller and is able to make a play on the ball that prevents a clean rebound.

Play on