I'll be Seeing These Guys Tomorrow

[JetMetFan]

Seriously, what was there to explain for that long while in the team's bench area? "Coach, assistant #X picked up the T for complaining and it needs to stop." Heck, I doubt I'd even say that much.

[letemplay]

Others have said it...a case of way too many assistants. I'd bet at least a couple are former HC's that, for what ever reason (I'd offer a guess), lost that position and cannot behave benchside like an assistant should.

[Rich]

Apparently this is also a conference that decided to revert to 2-man and most of the experienced officials decided to not work the conference.

Good on them for the technical, but after that there's no reason not to get out of there and go opposite the benches until it's time to shoot the free throws. If an assistant is going to get run, let it happen from a distance.

And this was a regular season game. Some teams have a lot of coaches on the bench. Not in our purview. Also, even if they are head coaches at other levels, there's a seat belt rule in WI for all but varsity head coaches. JV and FR coaches have to sit with the exceptions listed in the rules.

[Nevadaref]

Thanks for the extra info Rich.

[ballgame99]

I can't imagine having this much conversation with anyone other than the HC. If they want to have that many assistants and said assistants want to run their mouths, whack-em-all!! That is just crazy. How they got out of that sequence with just one T is amazing.

BTW, who is the dude in the pullover that comes in at the end? He must have been from the home school by the way they were heckling him. He didn't help matters by being hot headed when he got there.

[rockyroad]

Watching it again, it appears that after the initial disagreement and subsequent T on the assistant coach, the rest of the whole mess seems to be the coaching staff yelling at the table crew and the officials trying to get them to knock that off. So maybe that's why there were no more T's handed out?

[Tim C]

OK, Oregon uses two person crews for all games at all times for all genders completely through the state championship games.

Cameron will come here and will say he sees a change coming (that means for the first time Oregon has developed a committee to review going to 3 person crews) the sticking point is Title 9 and GV.

As an ex-basketball official (for 25 years) I see no advantage at all in the extra official in 99% of high school games that I have observed over the past five years.

Just sayin"

T

[#olderthanilook]

2 man crew for playoffs??? Weird.

I'm in agreement with others who have posted. TOO much yapping between officials and bench personnel.

Talk to the HC and only the HC. Tell him to get his bench under control. If he doesn't immediately turn to them and tell them to sit down and shut up, then it's a T to the bench indirect to HC.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

2 man crew for playoffs??? Weird.

I'm in agreement with others who have posted. TOO much yapping between officials and bench personnel.

Talk to the HC and only the HC. Tell him to get his bench under control. If he doesn't immediately turn to them and tell them to sit down and shut up, then it's a T to the bench indirect to HC.

Here in Wisconsin, they use two officials through the regional semifinal, and then three for sectionals and state.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

2 man crew for playoffs??? Weird.

I'm in agreement with others who have posted. TOO much yapping between officials and bench personnel.

Talk to the HC and only the HC. Tell him to get his bench under control. If he doesn't immediately turn to them and tell them to sit down and shut up, then it's a T to the bench indirect to HC.

Did you not read the thread? My post above clearly mentioned that this was a regular season game.

[Tio]

My 2 cents:

This is why you stay away from benches. There is absolutely no excuse for this much dialog.

"Coach, maybe I missed the play." Then walk away from the situation.

The approach by the crew was very confrontational and only made a bad situation worse.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Tio

This is why you stay away from benches. There is absolutely no excuse for this much dialog.

"Coach, maybe I missed the play." Then walk away from the situation.

If you haven't called a technical foul you can say this.

If you call a tech, just get away quickly and silently.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Rich

Apparently this is also a conference that decided to revert to 2-man and most of the experienced officials decided to not work the conference.

Good on them for the technical, but after that there's no reason not to get out of there and go opposite the benches until it's time to shoot the free throws. If an assistant is going to get run, let it happen from a distance.

And this was a regular season game. Some teams have a lot of coaches on the bench. Not in our purview. Also, even if they are head coaches at other levels, there's a seat belt rule in WI for all but varsity head coaches. JV and FR coaches have to sit with the exceptions listed in the rules.

A PSA ad for 3 man in your state.......3 man crew would have grabbed foul. Lead was probably screened, foul on trails backside

I give those two guys A+ for their composure, the younger, shorter guy didn't blink.

Coaches acted like schoolyard bullies. In hindsight, as noted could have been handled better, but I applaud these two.

Hey Wisconsin, wake up and smell the cheese.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fullor30

A PSA ad for 3 man in your state.......3 man crew would have grabbed foul. Lead was probably screened, foul on trails backside

I give those two guys A+ for their composure, the younger, shorter guy didn't blink.

Coaches acted like schoolyard bullies. In hindsight, as noted could have been handled better, but I applaud these two.

Hey Wisconsin, wake up and smell the cheese.

I've given up. Too many people simply don't care if we work 2 or 3. Many coaches see no benefit or openly say they prefer 2.

We are necessary evils.

Some crews have decided to take 3 to places )where it's been blessed) and split 2 checks. I *will not* do that. If the schools want me to bring 3, they'll pay for 3. Now, if *everyone* takes a small hit and we all get $5 or $10 less to work 3, I'm all for that. It's what I've advocated all along.

But working a varsity game for $40, less than the JV officials made? It's not going to happen. Not with me involved, that is.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Rich

I've given up. Too many people simply don't care if we work 2 or 3. Many coaches see no benefit or openly say they prefer 2.

We are necessary evils.

2 refs and 7 coaches...... quite a contradiction