I'll be Seeing These Guys Tomorrow

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by OrStBballRef

Agree with most of what has already been said here, but what I'm curious about is which AC got the T (video cuts away)....reason I'm asking is if it's the one who I think got it, it looks like he was in the huddle(s) when the officials were talking to the HC.

Going into the throng of players and coaches there at the end of the quarter to talk to the AC....bad.

Continuing to talk to AC/HC combo (I too took awhile to realize the person in the suit was the HC) even worse.

In that situation best to let the HC know that before any conversation takes place that he needs to get his bench under control. Then we can have a conversation...

I'd be curious to know if bench decorum had been dealt with before this sequence of events...2 minutes in a youtube clip just doesn't explain show what happened before (and I'd bet this was going on prior to this play)...

+1

Especially the bolded.

[zm1283]

+1 on everything that has been said. This is waaaay too much interaction with the assistants. I wouldn't entertain the HC at all unless the howler monkeys were under control first. Chances are, with the way they were acting, at least one of them wouldn't be around very long anyway.

[JetMetFan]

Seriously, what was there to explain for that long while in the team's bench area? "Coach, assistant #X picked up the T for complaining and it needs to stop." Heck, I doubt I'd even say that much.

[letemplay]

Others have said it...a case of way too many assistants. I'd bet at least a couple are former HC's that, for what ever reason (I'd offer a guess), lost that position and cannot behave benchside like an assistant should.

[Rich]

Apparently this is also a conference that decided to revert to 2-man and most of the experienced officials decided to not work the conference.

Good on them for the technical, but after that there's no reason not to get out of there and go opposite the benches until it's time to shoot the free throws. If an assistant is going to get run, let it happen from a distance.

And this was a regular season game. Some teams have a lot of coaches on the bench. Not in our purview. Also, even if they are head coaches at other levels, there's a seat belt rule in WI for all but varsity head coaches. JV and FR coaches have to sit with the exceptions listed in the rules.

[Nevadaref]

Thanks for the extra info Rich.

[ballgame99]

I can't imagine having this much conversation with anyone other than the HC. If they want to have that many assistants and said assistants want to run their mouths, whack-em-all!! That is just crazy. How they got out of that sequence with just one T is amazing.

BTW, who is the dude in the pullover that comes in at the end? He must have been from the home school by the way they were heckling him. He didn't help matters by being hot headed when he got there.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Rich

Apparently this is also a conference that decided to revert to 2-man and most of the experienced officials decided to not work the conference.

Good on them for the technical, but after that there's no reason not to get out of there and go opposite the benches until it's time to shoot the free throws. If an assistant is going to get run, let it happen from a distance.

And this was a regular season game. Some teams have a lot of coaches on the bench. Not in our purview. Also, even if they are head coaches at other levels, there's a seat belt rule in WI for all but varsity head coaches. JV and FR coaches have to sit with the exceptions listed in the rules.

A PSA ad for 3 man in your state.......3 man crew would have grabbed foul. Lead was probably screened, foul on trails backside

I give those two guys A+ for their composure, the younger, shorter guy didn't blink.

Coaches acted like schoolyard bullies. In hindsight, as noted could have been handled better, but I applaud these two.

Hey Wisconsin, wake up and smell the cheese.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fullor30

A PSA ad for 3 man in your state.......3 man crew would have grabbed foul. Lead was probably screened, foul on trails backside

I give those two guys A+ for their composure, the younger, shorter guy didn't blink.

Coaches acted like schoolyard bullies. In hindsight, as noted could have been handled better, but I applaud these two.

Hey Wisconsin, wake up and smell the cheese.

I've given up. Too many people simply don't care if we work 2 or 3. Many coaches see no benefit or openly say they prefer 2.

We are necessary evils.

Some crews have decided to take 3 to places )where it's been blessed) and split 2 checks. I *will not* do that. If the schools want me to bring 3, they'll pay for 3. Now, if *everyone* takes a small hit and we all get $5 or $10 less to work 3, I'm all for that. It's what I've advocated all along.

But working a varsity game for $40, less than the JV officials made? It's not going to happen. Not with me involved, that is.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by fullor30

A PSA ad for 3 man in your state.......3 man crew would have grabbed foul. Lead was probably screened, foul on trails backside

I give those two guys A+ for their composure, the younger, shorter guy didn't blink.

Coaches acted like schoolyard bullies. In hindsight, as noted could have been handled better, but I applaud these two.

Hey Wisconsin, wake up and smell the cheese.

Hindsight is always better, but if one tech had been issued to the bench, a simple "If one more bench tech is given, you know that you are ejected, right?" might have made a difference. But knuckleheads seem to surround themselves with even bigger knuckleheads, so it may only have helped in a dream world.