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[JetMetFan]

If I understand this all correctly, why would the first two FTs have been unmerited?

Team B had 4 FTs coming its way for the two Ts. Take the result of the first four FTs, eliminate the result of #5, give Team B the ball at the division line and the AP arrow stays where it was before all the craziness began.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

If I understand this all correctly, why would the first two FTs have been unmerited?

Team B had 4 FTs coming its way for the two Ts. Take the result of the first four FTs, eliminate the result of #5, give Team B the ball at the division line and the AP arrow stays where it was before all the craziness began.

Change it around a bit: A1 goes up for a shot, is fouled and misses the shot and is awarded 2 shots. After the foul, during the dead ball, B1 pushes A2 for a T. The officials erroneously allow A2 to shoot all four FTs. the first 2 go in the second 2 miss. The officials realize their error. Then what do you have?
Here is a hint: I agree with Just another ref.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Change it around a bit: A1 goes up for a shot, is fouled and misses the shot and is awarded 2 shots. After the foul, during the dead ball, B1 pushes A2 for a T. The officials erroneously allow A2 to shoot all four FTs. the first 2 go in the second 2 miss. The officials realize their error. Then what do you have?
Here is a hint: I agree with Just another ref.

Take away A2's first two FT's...allow A1 to shoot two FT's.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Change it around a bit: A1 goes up for a shot, is fouled and misses the shot and is awarded 2 shots. After the foul, during the dead ball, B1 pushes A2 for a T. The officials erroneously allow A2 to shoot all four FTs. the first 2 go in the second 2 miss. The officials realize their error. Then what do you have?
Here is a hint: I agree with Just another ref.

This is different than the OP since the sequence you describe begins with a shooting foul for one player but another takes his shots, as opposed to the held ball situation. In your scenario of course you wipe the first two since A1 was supposed to take them.

Unless I'm just not computing things properly because I'm really tired, the only fouls in the OP were dead-ball contact Ts which means anyone can take them. B2 got the four FTs he/his team was supposed to get within those first four shots.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

This is different than the OP since the sequence you describe begins with a shooting foul for one player but another takes his shots, as opposed to the held ball situation. In your scenario of course you wipe the first two since A1 was supposed to take them.

Unless I'm just not computing things properly because I'm really tired, the only fouls in the OP were dead-ball contact Ts which means anyone can take them. B2 got the four FTs he/his team was supposed to get within those first four shots.

They may have but the what-if involving a different shooter reveals the fact that the first shots were the ones awarded for a foul that wasn't committed and are the ones to be corrected.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

They may have but the what-if involving a different shooter reveals the fact that the first shots were the ones awarded for a foul that wasn't committed and are the ones to be corrected.

Okay. I wasn't processing the whole "U1 thought..." part of the equation. The joys of hindsight since I knew from reading the OP that there wasn't a foul at the start of the whole mess.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

B2 got the four FTs he/his team was supposed to get within those first four shots.

...yes, but you shoot the FT's in the order they happened.

Since U1 gave two unmerited FT's...you must correct that and take them away...then give one more FT for the 4th Technical FT that has not been shot yet.

I'm tired also...

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

If I understand this all correctly, why would the first two FTs have been unmerited?

Team B had 4 FTs coming its way for the two Ts. Take the result of the first four FTs, eliminate the result of #5, give Team B the ball at the division line and the AP arrow stays where it was before all the craziness began.

That is exactly how the crew handled it...

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

If I understand this all correctly, why would the first two FTs have been unmerited?

Team B had 4 FTs coming its way for the two Ts. Take the result of the first four FTs, eliminate the result of #5, give Team B the ball at the division line and the AP arrow stays where it was before all the craziness began.

This is correct per a couple of past NFHS rulings.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

This is correct per a couple of past NFHS rulings.

Which are?