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Old Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:44pm
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chapmaja, regardless of what foul you called on the player, she would be disqualified, not ejected.
While that may be true where you live, it's not true everywhere.

In NC, a player can be ejected for 5 different acts. An ejection differs from a disqualification in that the player will receive a suspension from the NCHSAA, dependent upon the sport and the reason for ejection.
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:00am
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I think you handled the situation well. The one thing I would add is that you should contact the administration at the school these gentlemen were from. I had a similar situation once during a MS "B" team game (in Michigan).

It was a fairly tight game and I called a foul on a visiting team player (push or a block), which is her fourth personal foul. This was not a bonus situation, so I get ready to bounce the ball to the inbounder when I hear a male fan (parent of the girl who committed the foul) yell at me then yell "Next time foul her hard". Unfortunately a few seconds later the same young lady is the only defender back on defense during a fast break. She immediately extends the arms and gives the offensive player a two hand shove to the ground as she attempts a lay-up. I mentally debated for a second do I call this an intentional or flagrant foul (only time I've come close to calling a flagrant in close to 15 years of officiating).

Knowing this is the young ladies 5th personal, and thus a disqualifying foul I only call it intentional. I report the foul and here the same parent cheering about how tough his daughter was. Luckily the girl who was fouled was not injured on the play.

After the game the same idiot followed myself and my parenter (a young lady that was 5-0 and maybe 100 lbs.) out to our cars, yelling at us the entire time. My next stopped was to officiate a high school swim meet at the districts high school, so I talked with the AD of the host school then. He suggested I contacted the visiting AD, which I did. The parent was suspended from attending any athletic event in the district for the rest of the school year.

The host school had video in the gym, and they helped the visiting school identify who the idiot was.

My take on why I called it the way I did. First, this parent obviously had serious issues, and his daughter has to go home to that. I called it intentional in part because of her. If I had tossed her from the game I didn't know what the parent might due to her if he was this unstable at the game. The penalty would be the same, 2 shots and possession. The player would still be done for the game (5th personal vs flagrant ejection). The only difference was that she would not be subject to a 1 game suspension for being ejected.
My advice, and take it FWIW, never alter the way you call a game based on unknown factors off the court. That's over thinking it, big time.
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:23am
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Have had this happen before with parents walking over to table, usually after some AAU games

Steve Welmer and Jim Burr are usual names given out
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Have had this happen before with parents walking over to table, usually after some AAU games

Steve Welmer and Jim Burr are usual names given out
Dewey Cheatham & Andy Howe would be a good partnership
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Old Sun Mar 17, 2013, 09:43pm
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You could always ask that parent/fan for their Social Security number - tell them you want to call and open up a credit card account in their honor on the way home.

If I was feeling particularly malicious, I'd probably give them the name and number of an official I used to work with that features prominently in a video on YouTube.
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Old Sun Mar 17, 2013, 09:49pm
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For all the ones suggesting fake names, I am just not sure I would be able to do it with a straight face. Give them some NBA or Final Four official's name and I know I'd crack a smile...
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Old Sun Mar 17, 2013, 10:13pm
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Honestly, I prefer to just direct them to the league director. If they don't know how to contact that person, they can talk to their kids' coach. I can appreciate the fun, however, in giving either fake or stolen names. I just would rather do it professionally, and not have to explain my sense of humor to my assigner when he calls asking why I told a parent my name was Bruce Banner.
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:52am
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You may want to alert the assignor... let them handle following up with the school. Unfortunately this happens... My advice would be to ignore it and move on.

The old high school group used to print out business cards that had information on how to join the association. The purpose was to hand them to fans who are obviously officiating "experts." I never actually did it, but always thought it was funny.
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