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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:32am
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Pet Peeve: Sticky Mats

So this is a pet peeve of mine. When working NCAA games we have been instructed to move the sticky mats away from the "X" at the division line to abide rule 1-17:

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Art. 6.

Logos: The playing court must be completely finished in a manner that is similar throughout, including the three-foot area outside each sideline and six-foot area outside each end line. It is the responsibility of the host game management to ensure the court is of a consistent finish, including any logos or decals that are legally allowed on the floor.
I have watched three games on the NCAAM side in the past week (Xavier, UCLA and now Notre Dame), and all three games had the sticky mats sitting right on the "X" at the division line. If any of you have seen the video on the NCAA Central Hub, I can assure you that the rule is in place for not only the players' protection, but ours as well.

My question is: Why do these guys not move these mats!? Like I said earlier, if you've seen the video on the Central Hub, you would want them moved for your safety!

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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:37am
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I guess the question I have for you is, who is "we?"

I have never heard anyone make that kind of proclamation that these things must be moved or else. As a matter of fact I cannot think of anything being specifically mentioned.

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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:42am
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"We" is officials in general... Yes, in the rule home management is responsible for ensuring the 3-foot boundary on the sideline is of consistent finish. However, if they don't apply the rule, the officials have to adhere to the rule (i.e. moving the mats).

Have you not seen the video JRut? Its ugly...
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:43am
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I haven't seen the video. What is the danger?
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:48am
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"We" is officials in general... Yes, in the rule home management is responsible for ensuring the 3-foot boundary on the sideline is of consistent finish. However, if they don't apply the rule, the officials have to adhere to the rule (i.e. moving the mats).

Have you not seen the video JRut? Its ugly...
Which video?

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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:49am
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This one...
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:57am
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Sticky subject...

Here's what we received in NCAAW. I'm guessing NCAAM received the same thing?

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11/7/12 Courtside Traction Mats (Rule 1-17 new)
The only 2012-13 rule change states, “The playing court must be completely finished in a manner that is similar throughout, including the three-foot area outside each sideline and six-foot area outside each end line. It is the responsibility of the host game management to ensure the court is of a consistent finish, including any logos or decals that are legally allowed on the floor.”

Comment: This rule is clear that the three-foot area outside each sideline and the six-foot area outside each endline must be a surface that is completely finished in a manner that is similar throughout as is the playing court. These areas were included in this rule to provide players and officials with a similar surface as the finish on the playing court because of the traffic in these areas. Locating traction mats (used to clean shoes), carpet runners or any other object within this area changes the surface of the floor significantly and therefore, violates this rule. While these items are permitted, they cannot be located in these areas. Per clinic instructions, officials are to request that game management ensure that the playing court and the designated surrounding areas comply with the new rule. This may require that game management relocate the traction matts to be outside of the three-foot area outside the sideline. We are not suggesting where to relocate these or other items, but we are specific that the objects cannot be located within these areas.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:17am
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Here's what we received in NCAAW. I'm guessing NCAAM received the same thing?
Why wouldn't they? The video involves the NCAAM official getting hurt...
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:33am
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I guess the question I have for you is, who is "we?"

I have never heard anyone make that kind of proclamation that these things must be moved or else. As a matter of fact I cannot think of anything being specifically mentioned.

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Really...another thing we are now in charge of? Are they matching in color too?
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:27am
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I move one at my (non D-1) game yesterday. The R has moved one a couple of times at games I worked in the past couple of weeks.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:21pm
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Why wouldn't they? The video involves the NCAAM official getting hurt...
I have never seen that video before. Was that posted on the Men's hub because by the voice on the video that's a NCAA-W's video.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:24pm
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I have never seen that video before. Was that posted on the Men's hub because by the voice on the video that's a NCAA-W's video.
I hadn't either, that is why I was curious. I thought maybe I did not see something. But I have heard no mention of this issue. It has not been a problem in any game either.

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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:35pm
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I have never seen that video before. Was that posted on the Men's hub because by the voice on the video that's a NCAA-W's video.
That's interesting... The voice in the video is Debbie Williamson, and it is on the NCAAW Hub.

I think its just another reason why they need to split the rule books up. Its obviously not getting followed the same way on the two sides...

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I hadn't either, that is why I was curious. I thought maybe I did not see something. But I have heard no mention of this issue. It has not been a problem in any game either.

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Its not a problem at any of my games either because I have it moved before the game begins...
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:38pm
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That's interesting... The voice in the video is Debbie Williamson, and it is on the NCAAW Hub.

I think its just another reason why they need to split the rule books up. Its obviously not getting followed the same way on the two sides...



Its not a problem at any of my games either because I have it moved before the game begins...
I have not had to remove them because they were not there.

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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:41pm
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I haven't seen them other than at AAU tournaments. They are really quite useless anyway, because the dust will stick to the sneaker and traction will not be improved for very long. Just another way to suck money out of people for a product that is not needed. (See arm sleeves).
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