Ohio State v. Michigan

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I cannot even think of the last time you or I had even a conversation let alone disagreed with each other. I guess my comments mean more to you than yours will ever mean to me.

Peace

Ouch...that will leave a mark!

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Ouch...that will leave a mark!

What I was really hoping for was a suggestion from Billy Mac......however I opened the can of worms so what Rut said is only fair.

[Tio]

Good discussion here.

Play #1, I like the fact they review it on the monitor. Very close... the contact is excessive and in the face so I would opt for a Flagrant #1.

Play #2. This is not a foul by any stretch of the imagination. If you disagree, i would encourage more tape review of similar plays. This is not a "rulebook" decision but understanding how the game is played. There is zero illegal contact that would merit a defensive foul regardless of the juncture of the game.

I am totally against "swallowing the whistle" because it is the end of the game, but it needs to be a legit, no-doubt foul. You put a marginal one in at this juncture of the game and one's career will be VERY short.

[parepat]

Originally Posted by Tio

Good discussion here.


Play #2. This is not a foul by any stretch of the imagination. If you disagree, i would encourage more tape review of similar plays. This is not a "rulebook" decision but understanding how the game is played. There is zero illegal contact that would merit a defensive foul regardless of the juncture of the game.

Are you talking about the drive or the shot. Looks like a foul on the shot to me.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Tio

Good discussion here.

Play #1, I like the fact they review it on the monitor. Very close... the contact is excessive and in the face so I would opt for a Flagrant #1.

Play #2. This is not a foul by any stretch of the imagination. If you disagree, i would encourage more tape review of similar plays. This is not a "rulebook" decision but understanding how the game is played. There is zero illegal contact that would merit a defensive foul regardless of the juncture of the game.

I am totally against "swallowing the whistle" because it is the end of the game, but it needs to be a legit, no-doubt foul. You put a marginal one in at this juncture of the game and one's career will be VERY short.

#1 In HS ball i think I am leaning toward an intentional here, however I do have a question for a third option. Would anyone have a slow whistle on this, see the pass to two of the yellows going the other way and then no call it for an easy bucket and more time off of the clock for the winning team? I think this is easier to do when the foul isn't so hard and involving the head. The caveat to this is, do you no call it this late in the game when you know that the now defensive team is trying to foul to stop the clock?

#2 No call all day long....and night too.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

#1 In HS ball i think I am leaning toward an intentional here, however I do have a question for a third option. Would anyone have a slow whistle on this, see the pass to two of the yellows going the other way and then no call it for an easy bucket and more time off of the clock for the winning team? I think this is easier to do when the foul isn't so hard and involving the head. The caveat to this is, do you no call it this late in the game when you know that the now defensive team is trying to foul to stop the clock?

On that one, a no call is only going to lead to something worse than it already is.

And I agree that and IF (F1) is at least in the discussion. Being hit in the face alone is not enough for it, but the follow through and take down takes it to that level.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

#1 In HS ball i think I am leaning toward an intentional here, however I do have a question for a third option. Would anyone have a slow whistle on this, see the pass to two of the yellows going the other way and then no call it for an easy bucket and more time off of the clock for the winning team? I think this is easier to do when the foul isn't so hard and involving the head. The caveat to this is, do you no call it this late in the game when you know that the now defensive team is trying to foul to stop the clock?

No, game situation they need to foul to stop the clock. Just call the foul like you would any other situation near the end of the game with the losing team.

Peace

[Scuba_ref]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

#1 In HS ball i think I am leaning toward an intentional here, however I do have a question for a third option. Would anyone have a slow whistle on this, see the pass to two of the yellows going the other way and then no call it for an easy bucket and more time off of the clock for the winning team? I think this is easier to do when the foul isn't so hard and involving the head. The caveat to this is, do you no call it this late in the game when you know that the now defensive team is trying to foul to stop the clock?

This is a recipe for escalating contact!

[Tio]

You need to get the first foul. If you pass, the contact gets harder. We want to avoid any escalation of rough play.

There is NO foul on the drive. It is marginal contact at best especially given the end of game scenario.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Ouch...that will leave a mark!

Sometimes the truth hurts. Just do not get what this has to do with agreeing with me. I got my games.

Peace