Michigan State vs Kentucky- 2 or a 3?

[Joe Gilmore]

Spark's shot with .1 seconds left, should it have been a 2 or a 3?


Thanks!!

[ronny mulkey]

He also drew the foul. I'm glad the Spartans won, though because I wouldn't want them to drag up the Kenny Anderson shot from 1990 again.

[canuckrefguy]

AND ONE?

Gimme a break....

[SMEngmann]

Personally I thought it was a great no call on the contact which Sparks clearly initiated. I couldn't tell what the call was on the floor, the C marked the try and the T was screened out, but nobody ever signalled 3 point FG from the angles I saw.

[mick]

Go Green!!!

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by canuckrefguy
AND ONE?

Gimme a break....

Absolutely right. No foul there at all. He probably SHOULD have fouled, to takes the chance that the shooter would miss one. He had a good angle to get a real foul, that wouldn't have been called intentional. I don't quite see why he pulled back.

[rulesmaven]

It couldn't possibly have been an and one. Plainly Kentucky is a bigger television draw, and if I'm understanding some of the crap suggested in the news, there's some referees' conspiracy to help CBS with ratings.

So, plainly if Burr had the opportunity to call it a foul and help Kentucky win, he would have done so, right?

Thus, no foul. Quad Erat Demonstradum.

(It was Burr, right -- I only saw the last 10 minutes, and sometimes I mistake him for Higgins on TV.)

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by rulesmaven
So, plainly if Burr had the opportunity to call it a foul and help Kentucky win, he would have done so, right?

Thus, no foul. Quad Erat Demonstradum.

Now, don't go all intellectual on us. Chuck is the only one here who knows what that means, and he's not around today. Okay, MAYBE Dan will give a shot at pretending. The rest of us are clueless. Can you translate for us lowly peons?

[canuckrefguy]

Originally posted by rainmaker

Now, don't go all intellectual on us. Chuck is the only one here who knows what that means, and he's not around today. Okay, MAYBE Dan will give a shot at pretending. The rest of us are clueless. Can you translate for us lowly peons?

Juulie you missed one....Padgett's probably got that phrase on stationary somewhere. Or a t-shirt.

[JugglingReferee]

There was no foul. K1 initiated the contact. Good no call. Good look at the shot's point value. Good way to handle the ensuing events.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Jim Burr (R) was the C in this play and I think it was Mark Whitehead (U1-?) was the T in this play.

The C and T were in good positions for this 3 pt attempt and normally, the T is primary for the 3pt attempt from were it was attempted. But the T was screened by a UK-2 player and the C was straigt lined with respect to MSU-1 defending against the shooter (UK-1). The C signaled a 3 pt attempt immediately upon the release by UK-1.

I think that MSU-1 could have been called for a foul against UK-1, BUT, I think the correct call was to not call a foul because the C did not have the best look at it.

I thought it was ironic that the C was the R in the game and had to make the yes or no decision on his own call, but I also think that Burr and Whitehead did a good job in taking their time and getting it correct.

I say this, because I am not the biggest Jim Burr fan, because I think that he can be a real arrogant SOB (boy do I resemble that remark).

MTD, Sr.

[tjones1]

Looking at it live I didn't see it. I was too caught up in that it went in. Now, looking at the replay I thought it was a two, however looking over and over again, I think they got it right......and Packer thought so too, so we better go with it!

[refnrev]

I said it on a another thread and I still say it was a 3. And there was enough contact that it could have been a foul. Being an Illini fan, I'd have to give him a foul just for playing for Michigan State! (LOL)

[TriggerMN]

Actually, Whitehead was the C, John Higgins the T, and Burr the L.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by TriggerMN
Actually, Whitehead was the C, John Higgins the T, and Burr the L.

Are you sure, the C looked awfully short to be Whitehead, I believe you if you say the T was Higgins because he and Whitehead are quite taller than Burr.

MTD, Sr.