Legal start of a dribble?

[The R]

Boys 8th grade game

A1 gains a defensive rebound and waits for traffic to clear. Passes to A2 with both hands. A2 ducks, the ball completely misses him and begins to bounce in bounds.

A1 runs over to the ball and bats the ball to the floor with one hand then proceeds to dribble towards front court.


Legal or illegal?
Reference please.

[APG]

Unless you're working an NBA game, this is legal...assuming he released the ball before he lifted his pivot foot.

What rule has he broken?

[The R]

The ball was released with both feet on the floor.

The only rule I thought that might be broken is an illegal dribble because of how he started the dribble.

I've always been told if you can't explain it don't call it. So I didn't.

[APG]

Nope, adjudicate this like you would any other dribble.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by The R

The ball was released with both feet on the floor.

The only rule I thought that might be broken is an illegal dribble because of how he started the dribble.

I've always been told if you can't explain it don't call it. So I didn't.

The only issue with your play would of been if A1 caught the ball with both hands after retrieving his errant pass then began dribbling again. You can start a dribble with both hands pushing the ball, but after that they cant both touch the ball at the same time again. An illegal dribble can only occur after a player ends a dribble.

ART. 1

A dribble is ball movement caused by a player in control who bats (intentionally strikes the ball with the hand(s)) or pushes the ball to the floor once or several times. It is not a part of a dribble when the ball touches a player's own backboard.

ART. 3

The dribble may be started by pushing, throwing or batting the ball to the floor before the pivot foot is lifted.

[maven]

Originally Posted by The R

The only rule I thought that might be broken is an illegal dribble because of how he started the dribble.

Which rule dictates how a player may start a dribble, other than doing it prior to raising the pivot (which you've already ruled out)?

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by maven

Which rule dictates how a player may start a dribble, other than doing it prior to raising the pivot (which you've already ruled out)?

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ART. 3

The dribble may be started by pushing, throwing or batting the ball to the floor before the pivot foot is lifted.

[letemplay]

4.44.3 D (b) A1 throws the ball over the head of B1 and then takes several steps before catching it. Ruling: since the ball did not touch the floor, the tossing and subsequent catch is illegal.
I realize in OP player batted ball to floor and began a dribble, rather than catching it. Does this change anything about the play and how it should be ruled?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by letemplay

4.44.3 D (b) A1 throws the ball over the head of B1 and then takes several steps before catching it. Ruling: since the ball did not touch the floor, the tossing and subsequent catch is illegal.
I realize in OP player batted ball to floor and began a dribble, rather than catching it. Does this change anything about the play and how it should be ruled?

The ruling says "since the ball did not touch the floor...."

Does that help?

[letemplay]

Yes, that helps...exactly what I was referring to.