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rekent Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:43pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 875944)
Don't know your experience level but if you are relatively new or trying to move up to the the observor's level one of the things they want to know is if you do know all the proper mechanics.

Before you can vary from the book you have to prove that you know the book. ;)

I'm 4 years in so not brand new, but no respect yet either I suppose. I've shown I know the book from exams though too.

zm1283 Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:45pm

I just punch with my right hand and kind of pull my left hand into my chest as I punch. It's kind of hard to describe. For those of you that work baseball, it's kind of a reverse chainsaw on a called strike three mechanic.

I used to go behind my head, but like other said, it feels very odd and looks weak. I see very few guys that look good going behind their head.

dsqrddgd909 Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:51pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 875946)
i put the other hand on my hip and then shake back and forth a bit. ;)

this also works for a self-called blarge.

Bob, I almost had one of those last night. It was a 50 50 play, and I'm thinking "Is defender legal? Yes, wait oops, he moved to a new spot while A1 was in air." Had hand behind head and then signaled block. What a mess. :o

tomegun Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:52pm

This is definitely a "Rome" thing. I don't remember the last time I put my hand behind my head on a court, or didn't use my fists on a block charge. The other aspect of "Rome" in this discussion is this (and it did not originate with me): mechanics are what we do as a crew like rotate, signals are what we do as individuals when we have fouls, violations, etc.

Raymond Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:54pm

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Originally Posted by rekent (Post 875951)
I'm 4 years in so not brand new, but no respect yet either I suppose. I've shown I know the book from exams though too.

Rules knowledge (check), mechanics (?), rules application (?), judgment (?).

I'm in my 11th season and still work on improving my mechanics. I am very strong with my table presentation but seeing myself on video a lot this season I see I still need a lot of improvement with my mechanics/posture/body movement after I blow my whistle and before I move to report my fouls.

Also, a lot of what observers tell you is to see if you can listen and adjust. Next time that observer sees you he'll notice whether or not you changed your mechanics accordingly. It also prepares you for when you start working for mulitple supervisors at the HS level and above.

AremRed Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:55pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 875952)
I see very few guys that look good going behind their head.

That's why you got to practice in the mirror. I try to look like I am punching the air, and give the air a big wallop. The further apart your legs are the better, and if you run forward a few steps before punching, even better. After I master this move, I will move on to the Joey Crawford Block Special.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UdMMYz0fKpI?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The running start, the hop(s), the look-back to check for technical-worthy behavior....this video screams professionalism.

rekent Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:56pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 875956)
mechanics are what we do as a crew like rotate, signals are what we do as individuals when we have fouls, violations, etc.

For us "mechanics" are signals and reporting (Think anything contained in or involved with the NFHS signals sheet)

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 875958)
Rules knowledge (check), mechanics (?), rules application (?), judgment (?).

I'm in my 11th season and still work on improving my mechanics.

I agree, the day I don't feel I can continue to improve is the day I need to quit, its just annoying when I hit your other 3 points relatively well so they decide to go after a mechanic not by the book instead of saying I had a good quarter/half/night that specific time or whatever else.

YooperRef Wed Jan 30, 2013 05:23pm

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Originally Posted by seanwestref (Post 875959)
That's why you got to practice in the mirror. I try to look like I am punching the air, and give the air a big wallop. The further apart your legs are the better, and if you run forward a few steps before punching, even better. After I master this move, I will move on to the Joey Crawford Block Special.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UdMMYz0fKpI?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The running start, the hop(s), the look-back to check for technical-worthy behavior....this video screams professionalism.

Apparently the "block" was so egregious is counted as 5 fouls. That or he's practicing his high stepping to be a drum major. Awesome video.

tomegun Wed Jan 30, 2013 05:47pm

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Originally Posted by rekent (Post 875960)
For us "mechanics" are signals and reporting (Think anything contained in or involved with the NFHS signals sheet)

Hmmm...:D

rekent Wed Jan 30, 2013 05:51pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 875974)
Hmmm...:D

Well played sir, well played... although I am not the one who picks the names, I just get to live with them

tomegun Wed Jan 30, 2013 05:53pm

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Originally Posted by rekent (Post 875976)
Well played sir, well played... although I am not the one who picks the names, I just get to live with them

I know man, just messing with you. If I say mechanics, some people around here will say, "You mean signals?". That extends to officials from California. I didn't make it up, I just deal with this version of Rome.

Freddy Wed Jan 30, 2013 05:55pm

Our Rome
 
Seems redundant, but I and others on our most frequent crews first do the hand behind the head then give the team control punch for which way it's going.
What I eschew is the weak, wimpy index finger at the end of a slightly bent elbow just pointing "the other way." :o

rekent Wed Jan 30, 2013 06:01pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 875978)
I know man, just messing with you.

No no, I knew you were. Trust me I'm not one of the oversensitive ones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 875980)
What I eschew is the weak, wimpy index finger at the end of a slightly bent elbow just pointing "the other way."

Definitely the worst of all!

maven Wed Jan 30, 2013 06:21pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 875980)
What I eschew is the weak, wimpy index finger at the end of a slightly bent elbow just pointing "the other way." :o

Where's the word 'effete' when you need it? ;)

RookieDude Wed Jan 30, 2013 07:13pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 875958)
Rules knowledge (check), mechanics (?), rules application (?), judgment (?).

game management (?), experience (?), court presence (?), ...just to add a few more.

I am sure there are many more we could add to create a well rounded official...

...I know Mark, BEER (?) is one of them...;)


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