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RookieDude Wed Jan 30, 2013 07:19pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 875952)
I just punch with my right hand and kind of pull my left hand into my chest as I punch. It's kind of hard to describe. For those of you that work baseball, it's kind of a reverse chainsaw on a called strike three mechanic.

Good Description...that's the one I use.

Then when reporting foul, use "hand behind head" signal while verbalizing Player Control.

Mark Padgett Wed Jan 30, 2013 08:54pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 875988)
game management (?), experience (?), court presence (?), ...just to add a few more.

I am sure there are many more we could add to create a well rounded official...

...I know Mark, BEER (?) is one of them...;)

No - MEDS (!) :cool:

26 Year Gap Wed Jan 30, 2013 09:12pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 875943)
I put one hand behind my head and use the other to point to a hot mom in the bleachers. My partners really appreciate it. :)

Especially, if you happen to be in that little corner of...

26 Year Gap Wed Jan 30, 2013 09:14pm

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Originally Posted by rekent (Post 875951)
I'm 4 years in so not brand new, but no respect yet either I suppose. I've shown I know the book from exams though too.

Figure 34 in the book. Plus the direction, as others have noted.

APG Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:24pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 875980)
What I eschew is the weak, wimpy index finger at the end of a slightly bent elbow just pointing "the other way." :o

Then you won't like seeing Joey Crawford calling offensive fouls...

And I'll still contend that this signal looks better then the silly looking hand behind the head...which I think looks even worse coupled with a point or punch with the other hand.

SAJ Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:54pm

Fist up, then behind head, then punch "team-control" style in other direction...all with the same hand

Eastshire Thu Jan 31, 2013 08:42am

As the team control punch has been officially stricken from the approved signal chart here in Ohio (yes even for team control fouls), all I give is the hand behind the head followed by a direction with the same hand.

We aren't allowed the TC punch because it's "too confusing to coaches."

Rich Thu Jan 31, 2013 08:45am

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Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 876011)
Fist up, then behind head, then punch "team-control" style in other direction...all with the same hand

That's the "by the book" mechanic. I probably have seen zero officials use it here, including myself. As was said before, it just looks weak to me.

I'll use the hand behind the head when reporting, but not at the spot. At the spot, it's normally a punch out with the right arm followed by a step and a punch with the left arm. Hard to describe, really.

Raymond Thu Jan 31, 2013 08:51am

On the spot I do behind-the-head or just point with loud "offensive" accompanying it.

I want to change to a fist up with one hand and a punch with the other hand as I bring my fist down but I keep forgetting once I'm in the heat of action. I'll continue to go behind my head with when reporting to the table.

VaTerp Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:29am

On the spot, I don't think I have ever gone behind the head except maybe when I was doing intramural ball in college.

The main guy who trained me after college always said the punch looked much stronger and that's what I have typically done.

Depending on what type of play it is I also increasingly find myself going with a strong point (not exactly sure what the reference to the wimpy point with slightly pint elbow is) and saying "offense."

At the table I go behind the head then point with the same hand.

APG Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:34am

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Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 876097)
On the spot, I don't think I have ever gone behind the head except maybe when I was doing intramural ball in college.

The main guy who trained me after college always said the punch looked much stronger and that's what I have typically done.

Depending on what type of play it is I also increasingly find myself going with a strong point (not exactly sure what the reference to the wimpy point with slightly pint elbow is) and saying "offense."

At the table I go behind the head then point with the same hand.

On a run of the mill offensive foul, I've been known to do that as well

VaTerp Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:48am

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 876101)
On a run of the mill offensive foul, I've been known to do that as well

Yup.

A bang bang play or a push off usually gets a punch.

Defender there all day will usually get a point the other way.

jeschmit Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:51am

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Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 876108)
Yup.

A bang bang play or a push off usually gets a punch.

Defender there all day will usually get a point the other way.

Depending on what level you call, you would want to be careful with the point... In NCAAW, there is a specific signal involving a point that is not a TC foul.

VaTerp Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:56am

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Originally Posted by jeschmit (Post 876111)
Depending on what level you call, you would want to be careful with the point... In NCAAW, there is a specific signal involving a point that is not a TC foul.

Thanks. What signal is that?

I primarily do HS and JUCO (NCAAM mechanics) and deciding whether to seriously pursue NCAAM or W.

jeschmit Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:00pm

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Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 876113)
Thanks. What signal is that?

I primarily do HS and JUCO (NCAAM mechanics) and deciding whether to seriously pursue NCAAM or W.

Page 135 of the NCAA Rules:

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