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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:17pm
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Ever ask a coach to remove a player?

Had a "bad element" in a good game last night. When he came in he brought crap into the game.

Ever consider asking a coach to keep a player on the bench?
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:28pm
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No. If he's truly a bad element, it'll take care of itself if you pay attention.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:36pm
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No, but I have seen those guys get in foul trouble pretty quick.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:53pm
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No. If coach isn't aware enough to take him out of the game, you have tools to do so yourself if need be.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:06pm
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No, not directly. At the youth level I have at times spoken to coach quietly if a player's behavior is becoming an issue. The smart coaches know that's an opportunity to address it/sub for the player before I take care of business.

Most of them take the opportunity.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:43pm
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Yes...after I get to 5 fouls.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:48pm
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Yes...after I get to 5 fouls.
That's funny. Radar gets pretty active with players like this.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:09pm
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No. Deal with it within the confines of the rules.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:18pm
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What about when player is violating uniform rules repeatedly? I have told coach, "need a sub until he can keep his shirt tucked in and shorts pulled up"
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:42pm
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What about when player is violating uniform rules repeatedly? I have told coach, "need a sub until he can keep his shirt tucked in and shorts pulled up"
I've done this.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:57pm
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I have never asked a coach to remove a player, but I have asked players to remove a coach. Usually, the response from the players is, "Wish we could".
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 04:18pm
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Had a "bad element" in a good game last night. When he came in he brought crap into the game.

Ever consider asking a coach to keep a player on the bench?
No, I don't think I have that level of credibility anywhere I officiate to do that. Have a buddy of mine who has done it. APG was in attendance when it happened (4 seconds left in a blowout game).
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 04:26pm
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Had a "bad element" in a good game last night. When he came in he brought crap into the game.

Ever consider asking a coach to keep a player on the bench?
A few years back, our state supervisor told me, "Find out who a team's best player is and find out who their a$$hole is."

It's served me well.
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Old Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:54am
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I did something last week along these lines, that i had never done before.

In the 4th quarter of a highly anticipated rivalry game, that had turned into a 20+ point blowout, out of frustration a kid from the losing team committed a very hard foul, which bordered on being flagrant. I immediately signalled intentional, and went by the bench as I was going to report. Fortunately, the coach was already sending a sub to the table, but I told the coach that either he could keep this player on the bench the rest of the night voluntarily, or I would see that he didn't come back in, and if I had to do that he was going to lose him for the next two games as well. The coach told me he was done for the night, and maybe the next two anyway!
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Old Sun Jan 27, 2013, 10:38am
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I did something last week along these lines, that i had never done before.

In the 4th quarter of a highly anticipated rivalry game, that had turned into a 20+ point blowout, out of frustration a kid from the losing team committed a very hard foul, which bordered on being flagrant. I immediately signalled intentional, and went by the bench as I was going to report. Fortunately, the coach was already sending a sub to the table, but I told the coach that either he could keep this player on the bench the rest of the night voluntarily, or I would see that he didn't come back in, and if I had to do that he was going to lose him for the next two games as well. The coach told me he was done for the night, and maybe the next two anyway!
I'm confused. If it was that bad, sounds like it wasn't "borderline."
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