Ever ask a coach to remove a player?

[Chris Whitten]

Had a "bad element" in a good game last night. When he came in he brought crap into the game.

Ever consider asking a coach to keep a player on the bench?

[Adam]

No. If he's truly a bad element, it'll take care of itself if you pay attention.

[OKREF]

No, but I have seen those guys get in foul trouble pretty quick.

[APG]

No. If coach isn't aware enough to take him out of the game, you have tools to do so yourself if need be.

[ref3808]

No, not directly. At the youth level I have at times spoken to coach quietly if a player's behavior is becoming an issue. The smart coaches know that's an opportunity to address it/sub for the player before I take care of business.

Most of them take the opportunity.

[Camron Rust]

Yes...after I get to 5 fouls.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten

Had a "bad element" in a good game last night. When he came in he brought crap into the game.

Ever consider asking a coach to keep a player on the bench?

No, I don't think I have that level of credibility anywhere I officiate to do that. Have a buddy of mine who has done it. APG was in attendance when it happened (4 seconds left in a blowout game).

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten

Had a "bad element" in a good game last night. When he came in he brought crap into the game.

Ever consider asking a coach to keep a player on the bench?

A few years back, our state supervisor told me, "Find out who a team's best player is and find out who their a$$hole is."

It's served me well.

[kwv001]

I did something last week along these lines, that i had never done before.

In the 4th quarter of a highly anticipated rivalry game, that had turned into a 20+ point blowout, out of frustration a kid from the losing team committed a very hard foul, which bordered on being flagrant. I immediately signalled intentional, and went by the bench as I was going to report. Fortunately, the coach was already sending a sub to the table, but I told the coach that either he could keep this player on the bench the rest of the night voluntarily, or I would see that he didn't come back in, and if I had to do that he was going to lose him for the next two games as well. The coach told me he was done for the night, and maybe the next two anyway!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by kwv001

I did something last week along these lines, that i had never done before.

In the 4th quarter of a highly anticipated rivalry game, that had turned into a 20+ point blowout, out of frustration a kid from the losing team committed a very hard foul, which bordered on being flagrant. I immediately signalled intentional, and went by the bench as I was going to report. Fortunately, the coach was already sending a sub to the table, but I told the coach that either he could keep this player on the bench the rest of the night voluntarily, or I would see that he didn't come back in, and if I had to do that he was going to lose him for the next two games as well. The coach told me he was done for the night, and maybe the next two anyway!

I'm confused. If it was that bad, sounds like it wasn't "borderline."

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by kwv001

... I told the coach that either he could keep this player on the bench the rest of the night voluntarily, or I would see that he didn't come back in, and if I had to do that he was going to lose him for the next two games as well.

Something like that could very much come back to haunt you. You were very fortunate the coach wanted to get him out of the game. It's way too much of a threat.

I would NOT suggest this approach for anyone.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by kwv001

I told the coach that either he could keep this player on the bench the rest of the night voluntarily, or I would see that he didn't come back in, and if I had to do that he was going to lose him for the next two games as well.

That's a good way to get a less-than-happy call from your assigner after the game. The kid was already being taken out. Let the coach handle it. If he puts him back in and the kid does something dumb then you and your partner deal with it.

[APG]

Originally Posted by kwv001

I did something last week along these lines, that i had never done before.

In the 4th quarter of a highly anticipated rivalry game, that had turned into a 20+ point blowout, out of frustration a kid from the losing team committed a very hard foul, which bordered on being flagrant. I immediately signalled intentional, and went by the bench as I was going to report. Fortunately, the coach was already sending a sub to the table, but I told the coach that either he could keep this player on the bench the rest of the night voluntarily, or I would see that he didn't come back in, and if I had to do that he was going to lose him for the next two games as well. The coach told me he was done for the night, and maybe the next two anyway!

What happens if the coach takes him out, waits until you report the foul, then decides to put him back in a little bit later?

Your fortunate the coach didn't take your threats the wrong way.