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Chris Whitten Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:17pm

Ever ask a coach to remove a player?
 
Had a "bad element" in a good game last night. When he came in he brought crap into the game.

Ever consider asking a coach to keep a player on the bench?

Adam Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:28pm

No. If he's truly a bad element, it'll take care of itself if you pay attention.

OKREF Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:36pm

No, but I have seen those guys get in foul trouble pretty quick.

APG Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:53pm

No. If coach isn't aware enough to take him out of the game, you have tools to do so yourself if need be.

ref3808 Sat Jan 26, 2013 01:06pm

No, not directly. At the youth level I have at times spoken to coach quietly if a player's behavior is becoming an issue. The smart coaches know that's an opportunity to address it/sub for the player before I take care of business.

Most of them take the opportunity.

Camron Rust Sat Jan 26, 2013 01:43pm

Yes...after I get to 5 fouls.

OKREF Sat Jan 26, 2013 01:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 874554)
Yes...after I get to 5 fouls.

That's funny. Radar gets pretty active with players like this.

Welpe Sat Jan 26, 2013 02:09pm

No. Deal with it within the confines of the rules.

HornPowered Sat Jan 26, 2013 02:18pm

What about when player is violating uniform rules repeatedly? I have told coach, "need a sub until he can keep his shirt tucked in and shorts pulled up"

Adam Sat Jan 26, 2013 03:42pm

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Originally Posted by HornPowered (Post 874567)
What about when player is violating uniform rules repeatedly? I have told coach, "need a sub until he can keep his shirt tucked in and shorts pulled up"

I've done this.

Mark Padgett Sat Jan 26, 2013 03:57pm

I have never asked a coach to remove a player, but I have asked players to remove a coach. Usually, the response from the players is, "Wish we could". :rolleyes:

Raymond Sat Jan 26, 2013 04:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten (Post 874538)
Had a "bad element" in a good game last night. When he came in he brought crap into the game.

Ever consider asking a coach to keep a player on the bench?

No, I don't think I have that level of credibility anywhere I officiate to do that. Have a buddy of mine who has done it. APG was in attendance when it happened (4 seconds left in a blowout game).

BktBallRef Sat Jan 26, 2013 04:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten (Post 874538)
Had a "bad element" in a good game last night. When he came in he brought crap into the game.

Ever consider asking a coach to keep a player on the bench?

A few years back, our state supervisor told me, "Find out who a team's best player is and find out who their a$$hole is."

It's served me well.

kwv001 Sun Jan 27, 2013 06:54am

I did something last week along these lines, that i had never done before.

In the 4th quarter of a highly anticipated rivalry game, that had turned into a 20+ point blowout, out of frustration a kid from the losing team committed a very hard foul, which bordered on being flagrant. I immediately signalled intentional, and went by the bench as I was going to report. Fortunately, the coach was already sending a sub to the table, but I told the coach that either he could keep this player on the bench the rest of the night voluntarily, or I would see that he didn't come back in, and if I had to do that he was going to lose him for the next two games as well. The coach told me he was done for the night, and maybe the next two anyway!

Adam Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwv001 (Post 874716)
I did something last week along these lines, that i had never done before.

In the 4th quarter of a highly anticipated rivalry game, that had turned into a 20+ point blowout, out of frustration a kid from the losing team committed a very hard foul, which bordered on being flagrant. I immediately signalled intentional, and went by the bench as I was going to report. Fortunately, the coach was already sending a sub to the table, but I told the coach that either he could keep this player on the bench the rest of the night voluntarily, or I would see that he didn't come back in, and if I had to do that he was going to lose him for the next two games as well. The coach told me he was done for the night, and maybe the next two anyway!

I'm confused. If it was that bad, sounds like it wasn't "borderline."


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