Game Management

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I think, after the fact, he would be fine, but I don't think that's the point. I think the point was it was a heat of the moment kind of thing that could have been diffused with a call. A game management tool. This was the takeaway I was supposed to get from it.

Could it have been a foul in another game? Maybe - there was contact. Would it have been a foul at any other time in this game? No.

A double-edged sword of sorts. Consistency, or satisfy a coach. I guess you have to decide what fits in your local group.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

A double-edged sword of sorts. Consistency, or satisfy a coach. I guess you have to decide what fits in your local group.

That's why I am still thinking about it. But there have always been things I have had to compromise on as I've moved up in any association. I really do get his point - it's just not the mindframe I'm used to being in.

[JugglingReferee]

For what it's worth, I think consistency is *always the point*. That's just me, though.

17 years ago when I first went to camp, the camp leaders (then college ball officials and now national and international officials) had us in groups to discuss the issues from non-officials angles. The two elements that each group came up with were consistency and communication. When a good friend of mine went to camp 10 years ago, the same conclusions were met. Now that I train my local board inexperienced officials, I asked them about their recent camp experiences. "Consistency and communication" were the two elements stressed. Guess what? 10 years from now it will be consistency and communication.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

A double-edged sword of sorts. Consistency, or satisfy a coach. I guess you have to decide what fits in your local group.

Consistency? I have consistency in a blow out game...the player of the team losing breaks away for a 3 ft. jump shot...there is some "contact"...

I have a foul...almost always...what is NOT consistent with that?

Listen to your "big dawg" Smitty.

Having said that and having read a lot about wiggle room and such, in this forum, newer officials should BEWARE!

I tell newer officials to just call the game. Call what they see. In my experiences...when I have tried to explain some of these "philosophical" principals that we have been discussing here...the officials' eyes glaze over and they end up not knowing if they should call a foul, travel, 3 seconds, enforce the box, etc. or when they should or should not call said violations and fouls.

I totally agree with Smitty's "big dawg's" philosophy.

But, you better have some credability and experience before you get too comfortable using that philosophy in a game situation.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

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Thanks for that.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Thanks for that.

Your Welcome, "Big Dawg"...

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Your Welcome, "Big Dawg"...

My welcome what?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Consistency? I have consistency in a blow out game...the player of the team losing breaks away for a 3 ft. jump shot...there is some "contact"...

I have a foul...almost always...what is NOT consistent with that?

Listen to your "big dawg" Smitty.

Having said that and having read a lot about wiggle room and such, in this forum, newer officials should BEWARE!

I tell newer officials to just call the game. Call what they see. In my experiences...when I have tried to explain some of these "philosophical" principals that we have been discussing here...the officials' eyes glaze over and they end up not knowing if they should call a foul, travel, 3 seconds, enforce the box, etc. or when they should or should not call said violations and fouls.

I totally agree with Smitty's "big dawg's" philosophy.

But, you better have some credability and experience before you get too comfortable using that philosophy in a game situation.

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