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Timekeeper sneaking in subs
One more from my strange day at the tiny MS:
In the last minute, and with the game out of reach, a team scores. I'm the L, new T, and I hear the horn. Subs from both teams come into the game, with the clock stopped. I go to the timekeeper and ask what the horn was for, and she replies, "to get the subs in." I'm not impressed with this, but I see no point in fussing. It's middle school, the last minute, kids want to play, and it would take only more time denying the subs or speaking with the timekeeper about it. Besides, I think the timekeeper was conned into it by a coach or scorekeeper. Let's say this happened in a varsity game. How would you handle it? Deny the subs? Technical fouls? (Bear in mind, no-one ever beckoned them.) Charge time-outs to each team? Just let it go?
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No I would not give T's...No I would not charge TO's to either team...and No I would not deny subs. For a MS game...I would probably "just let it go" as you did...then speak to the timer after the game. (Maybe) ![]()
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In a varsity game if a horn sounded at an inappropriate time and subs ran out without being beckoned, yes, I would T them all up.
In a jr. high game with the outcome decided and time winding down, I have been known to stop the game myself just to let the subs in.
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![]() (BTW...have you ever actually had a sub run out without being beckoned?) Answer: Of course you have...and I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut you have not T'd EVERY one of them.
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Never Say Never ...
With a dead ball, and the clock stopped, send them back to the table, and then beckon them in.
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In a varsity game? This.
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Without the horn, as in the original post, I used to do this to let these kids get in the game. Several years ago, I had a veteran official advise me to just blow the whistle and get them in the game.
Full disclosure: I was the twelfth player on a twelve man freshman basketball team. There were a few games where I was at the table (no X back then) waiting to get into the game to see the clock run all the way down to zero.
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So in Jr. High game, you will have parents volunteering on the clock/board and wouldn't worry about it too much. If it is happening at a higher level game with staff working the clock, I would address with the timer. But by rule you would have to bring them in. In NCAA rules you would not bring in subs on an inadvertent whistle or timing mistake inside of 1 minute.
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