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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:08pm
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The NFHS rule book disagrees with Newton and says an AP throw in occurs when there ia a simultaneous violation.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:14pm
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The NFHS rule book disagrees with Newton and says an AP throw in occurs when there ia a simultaneous violation.
He says Einstein and you quote Newton.

Simultaneous as mentioned in the rule book is a rulebook term and doesn't necessarily mean the actions occurred at exactly the same time -- for example, a simultaneous violation on a free throw.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:16pm
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Ah -- thanks.

I guess I should read the rule book more.

So, the answer to the test question in the OP is apparently "yes" (unless they are testing "double violation" vs. "simultaneous violation")
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:23pm
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Ah -- thanks.

I guess I should read the rule book more.

So, the answer to the test question in the OP is apparently "yes" (unless they are testing "double violation" vs. "simultaneous violation")
Doing a quick search on the rule book app for the phrases double violation and simultaneous violation, it appears that the NFHS uses both phrases. Almost randomly.

Don't feel I learned anything, but it's interesting nonetheless.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:31pm
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I guess I should read the rule book more.

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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:17pm
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:25pm
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If the choices are simultaneous violations and the AP arrow or decide which one came first, I expect most of us will still listen to Bob.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:20pm
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If the choices are simultaneous violations and the AP arrow or decide which one came first, I expect most of us will still listen to Bob.
I agree. I have never had a simultaneous violation. Someones whistle was first. Just pointing out the book does say this could happen.
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:16am
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Referee rules a double violation, jump ball. The team with the alternating possession arrow gets the ball out of bounds. Are the officials correct?
No, they should have ruled held ball.
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:30am
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No, they should have ruled held ball.
Actually, it's neither a jump ball or a held ball. It's a situation which is resolved by using the alternating possession arrow.
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:35pm
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Is there such a thing as a a double violation? Wait? Should I look this up in my rulebook, and casebook, first, or can I just ask the question? I sure hope that my question doesn't get me in trouble.
Thanks Billy Mac, you are a fine example of forward thinking and progress on this forum.
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