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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 01:29pm
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Shooter gets fouled while in the act of shooting, the ball goes in, I waive off the basket, and give the shooter 2 shots. Not very common, but I've had it happen 2-3 times over the years. How? The shooter traveled prior to releasing the shot.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 01:42pm
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I was going to mention a 5 point play I had last season (or maybe two years ago) but rockyroad beat me to it. The other occurence I had was a game where the winning team in a V-boys game I did several years ago did not attempt a single free throw. I didn't realize it until reading about it in the newspaper the next day.
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...did not attempt a single free throw....
I saw that in a large-school state tournament semi-final game last year in our state. I even went over the video of the entire game to see what our officials missed in an attempt to see why no free throws were ever shot, and they didn't miss a call on any drive or attempted shot. This normally hot-shooting outside shooting team never attempted any drives to the hoop, and on a terrifically cold-shooting low-foul count day they lost badly.
Not necessary an "obscure rule" story, but significantly rare, nonetheless.
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I was going to mention a 5 point play I had last season (or maybe two years ago) but rockyroad beat me to it. The other occurence I had was a game where the winning team in a V-boys game I did several years ago did not attempt a single free throw. I didn't realize it until reading about it in the newspaper the next day.
I guess it didn't matter that you didn't call it both ways.
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Multiple foul.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 04:50pm
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Multiple foul.
Actually, I think that happens in almost every every game, we just don't call it.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 05:09pm
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Actually, I think that happens in almost every every game, we just don't call it.
Then actually calling a multiple foul would be the one point safety.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 05:54pm
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Then actually calling a multiple foul would be the one point safety.
There is a difference between something unusually that almost never happens and something that could be called relative often but we choose not to call it.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 05:53pm
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I guess it didn't matter that you didn't call it both ways.
You'd think...the real odd part was that neither coach ever mentioned the foul count or complained. That's probably why we never realized it until the next day.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 02:08pm
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Shooter gets fouled while in the act of shooting, the ball goes in, I waive off the basket, and give the shooter 2 shots. Not very common, but I've had it happen 2-3 times over the years. How? The shooter traveled prior to releasing the shot.
Wouldn't the ball be dead once the travel is called (or occured)? Thus, no shot attempt if it occured prior to release?
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 02:09pm
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Shooter gets fouled while in the act of shooting, the ball goes in, I waive off the basket, and give the shooter 2 shots. Not very common, but I've had it happen 2-3 times over the years. How? The shooter traveled prior to releasing the shot.
If the traveling occurred before the foul and the shot, then the ball is dead. No FTs.

Unless you assess a intentional technical foul and if so, why does the "shooter" get the FTs??
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 02:19pm
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If the traveling occurred before the foul and the shot, then the ball is dead. No FTs.

Unless you assess a intentional technical foul and if so, why does the "shooter" get the FTs??
Foul occurred while in the act of shooting, then the travel (probably caused by the foul), then the release.

Picture a layup where the shooter has gathered the ball and is moving to shoot it but is bumped. In response to the bump, they're a bit off balance and take and extra step or two before releasing the ball.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 02:22pm
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Okay, that makes better sense.
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Shooter gets fouled while in the act of shooting, the ball goes in, I waive off the basket, and give the shooter 2 shots. Not very common, but I've had it happen 2-3 times over the years. How? The shooter traveled prior to releasing the shot.
I get this about once every other season.
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