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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 01:12am
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Yes, I'd be more inclined to give a replacement shot to the visiting team. Right or wrong, I just would.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 01:46am
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Here's the problem I have.

Your extra consideration definitely favors one team.

You know that when you do it.

This is, in theory to rectify a disservice which was intentionally done by someone else, but you will never know whether it was intentional or not.



When your partner makes 3 calls in a row against one team which all look horrible to you, are you inclined to ignore a call against the other team?
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 04:26am
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Here's the problem I have.

Your extra consideration definitely favors one team.

You know that when you do it.

This is, in theory to rectify a disservice which was intentionally done by someone else, but you will never know whether it was intentional or not.



When your partner makes 3 calls in a row against one team which all look horrible to you, are you inclined to ignore a call against the other team?
With all due respect I do not know what the last example has to do with this issue. We know if a game is a regular game the home team likely hired the home team and in most of our experiences, they have a rooting interest in their team. They are often parents, teachers or people directly involved with the program. It is entirely possible for them to do something that benefits their team. Not to say this was the case, but it would cross my mind. And that has nothing to do with what my partners call. But all of a sudden in a critical stage of the game the horn goes off, then I am thinking of what could be happening. As I said it really depends on the timing of the horn. If the horn goes off right as the FT is being shot, I will take a different approach than if the horn goes off right when the ball is at the disposal of the shooter. It is not black and white, it is very grey and why I would think about all those things and come to a decision. I might stop everything before a shot is taken if it is done at the right time.

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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 04:49am
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With all due respect I do not know what the last example has to do with this issue.

The issue is giving special consideration to one team to fix something which is possibly unjust. If your partner calls several fouls on the visitors when it is obvious to you that there is no contact on any of them, that would be unjust, but you wouldn't look at the next play any differently with this in mind, would you? I hope not.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 05:02am
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The issue is giving special consideration to one team to fix something which is possibly unjust. If your partner calls several fouls on the visitors when it is obvious to you that there is no contact on any of them, that would be unjust, but you wouldn't look at the next play any differently with this in mind, would you? I hope not.
Again, not sure what my partner's calls have to do with what a table does to disrupt the visiting team? And if my partner is screwing things up like that, they will not be there very long and I do not have to do much of anything.

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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 10:37am
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Here's the problem I have.

Your extra consideration definitely favors one team.

You know that when you do it.

This is, in theory to rectify a disservice which was intentionally done by someone else, but you will never know whether it was intentional or not.



When your partner makes 3 calls in a row against one team which all look horrible to you, are you inclined to ignore a call against the other team?
Wow, talk about a non sequitur.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 12:00pm
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What if the timer hit the horn because he was tased by the shot clock operator?
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 12:49pm
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What if the timer hit the horn because he was tased by the shot clock operator?
stupid..lol..don't tase me bro!
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 02:43pm
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What if the timer hit the horn because he was tased by the shot clock operator?
We don't know the intentions of the shot clock operator.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 02:51pm
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Let's make this easy. If the horn sounds... blow your whistle and kill the whole thing immediately.... before the shot attempt begins. Then figure out what is going on at the table, take care of the 5th foul then readminister the free throw. By waiting and the player missing the free throw you open a can of worms that we don't want/need to address. Squish the lizard before it turns into a dragon!
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 03:01pm
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Let's make this easy. If the horn sounds... blow your whistle and kill the whole thing immediately.... before the shot attempt begins.
What if the horn doesn't sound before the attempt begins (which is how I read the OP)?
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