No Good T Stories?

[Mark Padgett]

This isn't my "best" T story but it might be the weirdest. A few years ago, I was working a game in my local kids rec league when my partner told me he had given a T to his partner the week before.

I thought I heard him wrong but that's what he said. Of course, I was really confused and asked him to tell me the story. What he meant was - he gave a T to a guy who he worked some games with early in the day during a later game when that guy was coaching his own son's team.

Until I heard the explanation, I thought were going to have a story to tell down through the ages.

[Welpe]

I have not worked many games this season and only have a few run of the mill ones on players.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

This isn't my "best" T story but it might be the weirdest. A few years ago, I was working a game in my local kids rec league when my partner told me he had given a T to his partner the week before.

I thought I heard him wrong but that's what he said. Of course, I was really confused and asked him to tell me the story. What he meant was - he gave a T to a guy who he worked some games with early in the day during a later game when that guy was coaching his own son's team.

Until I heard the explanation, I thought were going to have a story to tell down through the ages.

That would be like giving a T to a mother who came out of the stands to care for her injured child. Almost.

[Terrapins Fan]

I am finding that the longer I referee, the fewer "T"s I give. 4 years ago, it was 20 for the season about 60 games with church leagues and HS.

Last year I gave about 7 and I didn't have much of a choice. They were by the book Ts.

What I mean by that is, a kid yells the F word, a coach tried to show me up yelling at me, so forth and so on. I have avoided a few by being patient this year.

So far this year 1. That's about 20 games into the season.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I am finding that the longer I referee, the fewer "T"s I give. 4 years ago, it was 20 for the season about 60 games with church leagues and HS.

Last year I gave about 7 and I didn't have much of a choice. They were by the book Ts.

What I mean by that is, a kid yells the F word, a coach tried to show me up yelling at me, so forth and so on. I have avoided a few by being patient this year.

So far this year 1. That's about 20 games into the season.

Sounds about right.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

"Can you show me where that is in the rule book coach?"

I turned to him and told him I don't care how much time is left or what the score is, because his player had been warned and he knew it.

[26 Year Gap]

I try to be judicious about T warnings to players. If you go straight to the "Triple Dog Dare" on the other team, that can get you in trouble. I prefer to speak to the coach about "Number 23" getting himself into trouble if he keeps it(fill in the blank) up.
I had one partner yell at a player for the whole gym to hear about him being a disgrace to himself, his team, and the whole school. He didn't want to T him up because I already had earlier. If i could have T'd my partner, that would have been the moment.

[grunewar]

I've only given one to a player so far this yr. "Son, Thy protesteth too much."

I did have a P WHACK both coaches in one game. Made for a fairly tranquil second half! IOW, it served its purpose.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

I try to be judicious about T warnings to players. If you go straight to the "Triple Dog Dare" on the other team, that can get you in trouble. I prefer to speak to the coach about "Number 23" getting himself into trouble if he keeps it(fill in the blank) up.
I had one partner yell at a player for the whole gym to hear about him being a disgrace to himself, his team, and the whole school. He didn't want to T him up because I already had earlier. If i could have T'd my partner, that would have been the moment.

I usually am less tolerant of players and more tolerant of coaches. I also will talk to players directly. Maybe that is not a good strategy, but I try to appeal to the player's common sense that if no other reason get them to realize they will lose this fight their want to have with officials. This used to work a lot early in my career, works very little now to the same effectiveness. It also would be nice if partners I have had would address these issues equally too. I have had a lot of partners that just let players say all kinds of things. Often time my comments to players are not about me at all.

Peace

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I am finding that the longer I referee, the fewer "T"s I give. 4 years ago, it was 20 for the season about 60 games with church leagues and HS.

Last year I gave about 7 and I didn't have much of a choice. They were by the book Ts.

What I mean by that is, a kid yells the F word, a coach tried to show me up yelling at me, so forth and so on. I have avoided a few by being patient this year.

So far this year 1. That's about 20 games into the season.

I am backward this year. The first two years I gave out two total. This year, 6 so far, 3 each in two different games, all to players. For pushing after dead ball, word exchange etc. four of them were double techs.

[deecee]

I had my first ever Flagrant and my first T for the year. T to HC for saying "You're a joke" after a foul call he didn't like.

Flagrant for a kid going up for a uncontested fast break layup where the defender (of the team that just couldn't keep the game close in the fourth) grabs the airborne player and throws him to the ground.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by deecee

T to HC for saying "You're a joke" after a foul call he didn't like.

After you called it, did you laugh?