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Old Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:16pm
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It appears that when #L2 reaches between #K3 and #K22 to "deflect" the pass the official calls a foul on #L2 and must believe that foul was against #K22. With the position of both #K3 and #L2 with their backs facing the calling official he doesn't have the best look at the "foul".

I don't recall any other angles for replay on the play so I'm not sure who the foul was actually on.
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Old Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:19pm
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It appears that when #L2 reaches between #K3 and #K22 to "deflect" the pass the official calls a foul on #L2 and must believe that foul was against #K22. With the position of both #K3 and #L2 with their backs facing the calling official he doesn't have the best look at the "foul".

I don't recall any other angles for replay on the play so I'm not sure who the foul was actually on.
IMO, it's pretty clear from the video that the foul on Smith was for wrapping Noel around the waste and turning him slightly.
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Old Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:26pm
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IMO, it's pretty clear from the video that the foul on Smith was for wrapping Noel around the waste and turning him slightly.
How is that pretty clear? The foul looks like it was on the pass. Now whether Smith was reaching to defect the pass is an issue, but I would not say that second acton was a foul.

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Old Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:43pm
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I actually would have been happier with no foul called at all on the play.

But from the timing of the whistle and the reactions, it seems that the foul was on #2.

If so, the wrong shooter was on the line.

It happens, intentionally or otherwise.
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Old Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:55pm
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How is that pretty clear? The foul looks like it was on the pass. Now whether Smith was reaching to defect the pass is an issue, but I would not say that second acton was a foul.

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Right, and the action I pointed out I think prevents Noel from receiving the pass cleanly.
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Old Sun Dec 30, 2012, 10:09pm
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IMO, it's pretty clear from the video that the foul on Smith was for wrapping Noel around the waste and turning him slightly.
That's your opinion.

The calling official doesn't give a signal to indicate what type of foul was called. It could have been the wrap around the waste with the left hand, which would be against #K3, or it could have been the contact with the right hand. The right hand could have been determined to be on either #K22 or #K3. I don't think the official had a good look for that right hand contact by #L2.
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Old Sun Dec 30, 2012, 10:13pm
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Not a big fan of the music in the video as I'm trying to determine if there were any whistles during the break in action to indicate the wrong shooter is at the line. There appears to be one around :20 when they cut away from the line and the players then switch positions. However, I'm not sure if that was just background music.
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2012, 06:12am
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Not a big fan of the music in the video as I'm trying to determine if there were any whistles during the break in action to indicate the wrong shooter is at the line. There appears to be one around :20 when they cut away from the line and the players then switch positions. However, I'm not sure if that was just background music.
I think they were bringing in subs, as this was a 1 and 1 situation. Is that the whistle you're referring to?
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