Coach-Player misconduct: Get involved?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You (inferring some info from your post) don't live outside of northern Illinois, you're Black, you're from the inner city, and you're from the south side. There are a whole lot more people in the world than there are from that very limited demographic. Saying one very small group doesn't use the term is hardly proof that it isn't widely used.

Actually Camron I am a small college rural kid. Lived in a small college town for over 25 years before moving to the area I currently live and have for 13 years.

Just stating that the people that I have been around a great deal do not use that term to describe the use of the certain word. And I was responding to someone saying that "The reason they call it an F-Bomb...." was the reason it was seen as totally inappropriate. Just stating that do not assume because you think it is so inappropriate that there are not people in this world that use that word as an adjective, noun or verb sometimes. And it does not mean that it applies to only Black people. The dirties mouths I hear are from south side (does not mean necessarily Chicago south side but the suburbs) are older white guys. Actually my demographic was quite broad, but you might not know that where you are located.

My simple point that there are more than one ways to skin a cat and I have no problem addressing bad language, just think the T is not the only option as suggested here. Sometimes all you have to say is, "I can here you...." and the issue is solved and no one knows you even made a big deal out of this. And the language totally stops. I have done so 100 times with a quiet word and they usually say, "I am sorry ref." But a T then has to be explained and then someone right or wrong is going to evaluate if that was the right thing to do and if it was appropriate at that time.

I gave a T on Thursday for something else and I was asked to explain the situation to the tournament director. And no specific language was used in that situation that was called inappropriate. We all work for different people and hold different positions. Where I work, I would get in trouble if that was the only reason I gave a T on the first kind of action.

Peace

[Maineac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We all work for different people and hold different positions. Where I work, I would get in trouble if that was the only reason I gave a T on the first kind of action.

Good point. And where I work, I could get in trouble for not giving a T in the situation given in the OP (assuming I heard the helping verb like the partner said he did), especially given that it was a freshman game. Around these parts, at that level, handling that with an "I can hear you" would be frowned upon.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Maineac

Good point. And where I work, I could get in trouble for not giving a T in the situation given in the OP (assuming I heard the helping verb like the partner said he did), especially given that it was a freshman game. Around these parts, at that level, handling that with an "I can hear you" would be frowned upon.

In a Freshman game there is likely fewer people in the gym. In a varsity game or where a lot of people are located, it would be harder to hear. I might be talking to my other partners and really not hear anyone say anything in a huddle. And most of all I doubt seriously I am going to hear a coach say much of anything where we stand as well. Not paying attention to them and certainly not listening to every word they say. But hey, some people like to trouble trouble, and that is not ever going to change.

Peace

[Maineac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

In a Freshman game there is likely fewer people in the gym. In a varsity game or where a lot of people are located, it would be harder to hear. I might be talking to my other partners and really not hear anyone say anything in a huddle. And most of all I doubt seriously I am going to hear a coach say much of anything where we stand as well. Not paying attention to them and certainly not listening to every word they say. But hey, some people like to trouble trouble, and that is not ever going to change.

Peace

There will definitely be fewer people in the gym for a freshman game, which is exactly why it's so much easier to hear. Therefore, why I'd be more likely to go get it. The rest of your post really doesn't apply to the OP, which is what I'm talking about. It was a given that both officials were present and having a quick meeting with the captains before an overtime period.