Missouri vs. UCLA

[ballgame99]

For some context, UCLA had 2 fouls with like 10 seconds to go. They intentionally fouled 3 times in about 4 seconds. This was their 4th foul in 5 seconds and their 6th team foul. So the fact that they were strategically intentionally fouling made this one look much worse. The ballhandler had a clear path to the basket on a last second type play and was grabbed by the waist by a defender that was out of position, this looks like an intentional (flagrant 1) to me. The ballhandler definitely embellished a bit, but I don't see how that makes any difference in this being a flagrant 1 or not.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

for some context, ucla had 2 fouls with like 10 seconds to go. They intentionally fouled 3 times in about 4 seconds. This was their 4th foul in 5 seconds and their 6th team foul. So the fact that they were strategically intentionally fouling made this one look much worse. The ballhandler had a clear path to the basket on a last second type play and was grabbed by the waist by a defender that was out of position, this looks like an intentional (flagrant 1) to me. The ballhandler definitely embellished a bit, but i don't see how that makes any difference in this being a flagrant 1 or not.

+1

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

The ballhandler had a clear path to the basket on a last second type play and was grabbed by the waist by a defender that was out of position, this looks like an intentional (flagrant 1) to me. The ballhandler definitely embellished a bit, but I don't see how that makes any difference in this being a flagrant 1 or not.

Clear path? Really? There were two more defenders between the point of the foul and the basket that could have easily cut him off and he only got by the 3rd defender as the foul was occurring.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Clear path? Really? There were two more defenders between the point of the foul and the basket that could have easily cut him off and he only got by the 3rd defender as the foul was occurring.

Clear path may be overstating it, let's just say A1 was in an advantageous position (3 on 2) and was grabbed by the waist by an out of position defender.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Clear path may be overstating it, let's just say A1 was in an advantageous position (3 on 2) and was grabbed by the waist by an out of position defender.

What difference does that make? That is not the reason we call a F1 or not at the NCAA level. It is called because they are either not playing the ball or they cause some level of excessive contact. I would call this the same no matter what advantage they had on the break. I just think the player was trying to sell the call rather than really get fouled that hard.

Peace

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What difference does that make? That is not the reason we call a F1 or not at the NCAA level. It is called because they are either not playing the ball or they cause some level of excessive contact. I would call this the same no matter what advantage they had on the break. I just think the player was trying to sell the call rather than really get fouled that hard.

Peace

LOL...I'm just going to agree to disagree on this one, Rut.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by DLH17

LOL...I'm just going to agree to disagree on this one, Rut.

That is fine, but I think a guy that flys around like that looked like something in a video game with a first person shooter. It did not look like to me that was call caused because of contact and contact alone.

Peace

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is fine, but I think a guy that flys around like that looked like something in a video game with a first person shooter. It did not look like to me that was call caused because of contact and contact alone.

Peace

Whaaaa?????!!!!!! lol...

Aside from Pressey flinging his arms out (mainly due to him trying to maintain any kind of balance), there was nothing embellished on that play.

The dude is tiny and moves quicker than the speed of light.

A bigger player grabbed him by the jeresey at his waist and pulled while Pressey was trying to slide by.

Physics. Helicopter. Blackhawk Down.

Ok...I'm just arguing for the sake of fun now. It is what it was. This "fanboy" has moved on. lol.