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Old Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:14am
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Although I understand where you are coming from, would you really want to put that kind of potential pressure squarely on the shoulders of a 17 year old kid?
The pressure of what? Mirroring his coach's timeout request?
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:28am
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Although I understand where you are coming from, would you really want to put that kind of potential pressure squarely on the shoulders of a 17 year old kid?
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The pressure of what? Mirroring his coach's timeout request?
They handled it for decades just fine until the rule was changed to allow coaches to request the timeouts.
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:59am
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Still don't see the issue with allowing coaches to ask for timeout
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Still don't see the issue with allowing coaches to ask for timeout
The problem is not them asking for a timeout, the problem is the fact they do not understand that we are not paying attention to them. Then again I also remember a time when only players could request the timeouts and somehow the players made the request just fine. I have been involved or seen too many issues come up because the coach thinks we are somehow obligated to pay attention to them. When you have a rule that has to constantly remind people that never pick up a rulebook or watch a rules video on the fact that the officials are not paying attention to them and have other duties, it is time to change the rule back to what it once was.

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Old Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:12am
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What Rut said.

We hear 99% of them just fine, but occasionally you get the coach with a soft voice, or you have a loud gym, or the action is too tense to glance at the coach to verify, or you tuned the coach out after he asked for "over the reaching moving screen you gotta call something" for the fourth time, and the coach spends half the timeout griping about how long it took you to grant the TO.
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:21am
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What Rut said.

We hear 99% of them just fine, but occasionally you get the coach with a soft voice, or you have a loud gym, or the action is too tense to glance at the coach to verify, or you tuned the coach out after he asked for "over the reaching moving screen you gotta call something" for the fourth time, and the coach spends half the timeout griping about how long it took you to grant the TO.
Amen to all that! We had a middle school tournament here about a month ago and one of the star guards was named Tyman! What a giant pain, coach must've said his name about every trip down the floor. Going to be a long four years once he hits high school!
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:51pm
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Amen to all that! We had a middle school tournament here about a month ago and one of the star guards was named Tyman! What a giant pain, coach must've said his name about every trip down the floor. Going to be a long four years once he hits high school!
We've got a few coaches that run a play called "Five out." Talk about Flinchy McFlincher every time they run it...
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What Rut said.

We hear 99% of them just fine, but occasionally you get the coach with a soft voice, or you have a loud gym, or the action is too tense to glance at the coach to verify, or you tuned the coach out after he asked for "over the reaching moving screen you gotta call something" for the fourth time, and the coach spends half the timeout griping about how long it took you to grant the TO.
Not sure why a rule should be changed if we hear them fine 99 percent of the time. 2/3 of those situations are on the coach for not being loud enough/signaling a TO along with his verbal request, so I'm not going to feel bad about those situations. The 3rd is a simply byproduct of doing our duties...a la paying attention to what's on the court. Coach will just have to accept that and I'd have no problem telling him/her as much if he/she tries to make a bid deal of it.

Seriously though, the overwhelming amount of timeouts granted via coach's request are easy enough to grant and come at predictable enough times that it isn't an issue...at least from what I've noticed.
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