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Old Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:44pm
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Get rid of the 3 second rule
This could make for some interesting changes in defensive and offensive strategies. How about just making the count start when a player catches the ball in the paint?

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Only players on the court can request a time out!
This would also force some changes to the way the game is coached. Do you think some of these kids are smart enough to follow their coach's wishes during late game situations?

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Portion of the correctable error rule: If a team is erroneously denied free throws the correctable error timeframe automatically ends if they subsequently score a field goal.
Can you explain your rationale? A1 is given 1 and 1 when it should be two free throws. A1 misses the first one, A2 gets the rebound and scores. The horn sounds, the officials realize it should have been two shots for A1, but he can't shoot them because A2 scored. Is that what you mean?
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:34pm
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Can you explain your rationale? A1 is given 1 and 1 when it should be two free throws. A1 misses the first one, A2 gets the rebound and scores. The horn sounds, the officials realize it should have been two shots for A1, but he can't shoot them because A2 scored. Is that what you mean?
Your recap is my rationale If the officials hadn't erred Team A would not have scored FG. I just don't like the feel of a team having a throw-in when then they should have been shooting 1-and-1, they hit a three, the horn sounds, now they hit 2 free throws. A 5-point play b/c of an officiating error.

I just feel that if they score on a possession that should never have occurred then it is redundant to then go back and give them some free throws.

(and please, no one re-hash the old "the other team's coach should have spoken up" crappola argument )
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:43pm
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Get rid of 95 percent of the uniform rules that NFHS passes off on officials. Also in a perfect world, I wouldn't mind the shot clock and/or restricted area.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:53pm
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Get rid of 95 percent of the uniform rules that NFHS passes off on officials...
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It's hard enough getting all the other rules memorized. I hate having to worry about the stupid color of a headband or where a logo appears.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:45pm
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I would extend correctable errors to include giving the wrong team the ball on the throw-in.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:52pm
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1. Shot clock added at least for varsity contests.
2. Have coach unsporting rules interpreted and applied as they are in FIBA.

I'm not opposed to the idea of going to actual jump balls on held balls, as well.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:06pm
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Alternating possessions. Let 'em jump.
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I'm not opposed to the idea of going to actual jump balls on held balls.
How has Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. been able to post under the name of both ref3808, and HawkeyeCubP? Does he think that just because he's a moderator, that he can take over anybody's Forum username, and post under that username?
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:14pm
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I'm not opposed to the idea of going to actual jump balls on held balls, as well.
As somebody that just worked a couple of girl's 7th grade games with a thousand held balls, I still would be in favor of this.

In the boys games, we in this area see very few held balls so I think an occasional jump would not be a big deal.

Go to the NBA style of inbounding the balls at the end of the quarters based upon home/visitor and ditch the arrow I say.
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Go to the NBA style of inbounding the balls at the end of the quarters based upon home/visitor and ditch the arrow I say.
That's not how it works in the NBA. Whoever wins the tip gets the ball to start the first (obviously) and fourth quarters and the other team gets the ball to start the second and third, not based on home or visitor at all.

I'd like the NBA to get rid of the 5 second back to the basket rule, if they want to add a 5 second count then bring up the NFHS and NCAA rule.

NCAA maybe go 10 minute quarters and get rid of one TV timeout per half. Instead of 4 per half, one at 16, 12, 8, and 4 minutes, you would drop to one at the 5 minute mark of each quarter plus the quarter break, so 3 total per half.

NFHS maybe implement a shot clock nationally. In a perfect world it would be consistent with the NCAA clocks, so 35 seconds for boys and 30 for girls.
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I would extend correctable errors to include giving the wrong team the ball on the throw-in.
I like this one, but I would change the expiration on it to a change of possession.
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This would also force some changes to the way the game is coached. Do you think some of these kids are smart enough to follow their coach's wishes during late game situations?


Yes, it would change how the game is coached. I would rather have the kids looking and listening for their coach than me. Since all the officials are mainly focused on the kids on the court, we would see and hear them much easier then their coach. I don't hear as well as I use to and I sometimes don't hear the request.

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Old Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:23pm
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Coaches and officials have to pass a rules test with 90% (maybe 80% because they word some of the questions stupidly) to be able to officiate. Timed test. 2 goes at it. If you don't pass, you don't coach or officiate.
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This would also force some changes to the way the game is coached. Do you think some of these kids are smart enough to follow their coach's wishes during late game situations?
In FIBA the coach or assistant coach only can request a timeout through the scorer which is only granted during a deadball. It forces the players to decide the game, not the coaches.
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In FIBA the coach or assistant coach only can request a timeout through the scorer which is only granted during a deadball. It forces the players to decide the game, not the coaches.
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