1st evaluation

[zm1283]

Looks very similar to evaluations a lot of us got our first year or two around here.

#1 and #4 are just a matter of slowing yourself down.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Looks very similar to evaluations a lot of us got our first year or two around here.

#1 and #4 are just a matter of slowing yourself down.

I think #1 is just a mechanism for slowing you down, personally. I'd be curious how many veteran officials in your area use preliminary signals on all fouls -- it would surprise me if they did.

[DLH17]

From my experience, not only do most of the "elite" officials in my area not only coach less experienced officials to give a preliminary, they also do so themselves.

I've watched numerous varsity games before becoming a varsity official and noted that the guys I wanted to emulate were all giving a solid preliminary at the scene of the crime. The best part of that for a newer official is that it forces the official to slow down, see the play through and not "lose" the number of the perpetrator.

Getting in a rush to get to the table can cause all sorts of issues for an official, not to mention leaving your partners in a bit of a quandry about what you have and where to go.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by DLH17

From my experience, not only do most of the "elite" officials in my area not only coach less experienced officials to give a preliminary, they also do so themselves.

I've watched numerous varsity games before becoming a varsity official and noted that the guys I wanted to emulate were all giving a solid preliminary at the scene of the crime. The best part of that for a newer official is that it forces the official to slow down, see the play through and not "lose" the number of the perpetrator.

Getting in a rush to get to the table can cause all sorts of issues for an official, not to mention leaving your partners in a bit of a quandry about what you have and where to go.

I'm not saying that officials run to the table here, but it would be very rare indeed for an official to signal, for example, a hold at the spot of the foul.

I'd still expect a partner to signal the foul, communicate the team/spot of the throw-in (or that we're shooting free throws), etc. before heading to the table.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by Rich

I think #1 is just a mechanism for slowing you down, personally. I'd be curious how many veteran officials in your area use preliminary signals on all fouls -- it would surprise me if they did.

Alot of them do on alot of fouls but for sure none of them do on all fouls.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Rich

I think #1 is just a mechanism for slowing you down, personally. I'd be curious how many veteran officials in your area use preliminary signals on all fouls -- it would surprise me if they did.

You would be surprised around here. It is harped on during every evaluation, even with veterans. We are told to give a preliminary on EVERY foul at all times, and most guys that I work with do it.

Originally Posted by DLH17

From my experience, not only do most of the "elite" officials in my area not only coach less experienced officials to give a preliminary, they also do so themselves.

I've watched numerous varsity games before becoming a varsity official and noted that the guys I wanted to emulate were all giving a solid preliminary at the scene of the crime. The best part of that for a newer official is that it forces the official to slow down, see the play through and not "lose" the number of the perpetrator.

Getting in a rush to get to the table can cause all sorts of issues for an official, not to mention leaving your partners in a bit of a quandry about what you have and where to go.

Ditto here.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by zm1283

You would be surprised around here. It is harped on during every evaluation, even with veterans. We are told to give a preliminary on EVERY foul at all times, and most guys that I work with do it.



Ditto here.

I can't see myself giving a preliminary on any foul committed on a shooter other than maybe a block mechanic on a 50/50 type play.

I'll give a hand-check or push preliminary if the foul caused the offensive player to violate or step OOB.

Other than that (and PC/Block crashes) I'm only going with a fist on the spot.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I can't see myself giving a preliminary on any foul committed on a shooter other than maybe a block mechanic on a 50/50 type play.

I'll give a hand-check or push preliminary if the foul caused the offensive player to violate or step OOB.

Other than that (and PC/Block crashes) I'm only going with a fist on the spot.

Must be an area thing because they really expect it here. Not that I agree with it all that much, but it's what they want.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I can't see myself giving a preliminary on any foul committed on a shooter other than maybe a block mechanic on a 50/50 type play.

I'll give a hand-check or push preliminary if the foul caused the offensive player to violate or step OOB.

Other than that (and PC/Block crashes) I'm only going with a fist on the spot.

Same...block/charge plays and fouls that cause violations. I couldn't imagine myself doing preliminaries for anything else and certainly not all the time.

I do think as a practice, it's not a bad one to teach new officials in that it'll more than likely slow them down and make sure they have the fouler and possible shooter. But for an experienced official? Overkill.