Easiest Toss I've Ever Had

[fiasco]

Girls V last Friday night. Middle of the third quarter. My partner calls a foul, reports to the table, then T's up Team B head coach. (He said later the coach said to him "At least you're being consistent")

My partner goes to administer free throws while I have a chat with the coach.

"Coach, I just need to inform you that, by rule, you've lost your coaching box for the night."

"What's his deal? I was talking to my player, not him. So you're just going to let him T me up like that?"

"The call stands, coach. You'll have to have a seat."

"Your partner is an idiot."

Booooop. Bye bye coach. I take a few strides to the table to record the T and ejection.

He then proceeds to follow me to the table and tell me he's going to stand here and give me a piece of his mind for as long as possible before he leaves the gym.

Unfortunately, I ask at the table and game management is nowhere to be found, so I turn to the coach, who is still yelling.

"Coach, you have exactly three seconds to start moving toward the door before I consider ending this game with a forfeit by your team."

He finally shuts up and goes out the door.

After we're done administering free throws, I have the ball for the throw-in and we notice he's just outside the gym doors, trying to watch the game. We finally locate game management and they escort him out of the building.

I had a talk after the game with the athletic director and let him know we always need someone on hand and available should a situation like that arise.

Crazy quarter. Just a few minutes after that, my partner tagged a girl from the same time for giving me the "T" signal after a foul call on her. Visiting team was up by about 15 before all the shenanigans. Home team came back to tie it, but pooped away the game in the 4th quarter and ended up losing by 12.

Here's my question. Obviously after the second T he's gone, but would you have considered giving him a third for sitting there yelling after he's been ejected?

[rekent]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Here's my question. Obviously after the second T he's gone, but would you have considered giving him a third for sitting there yelling after he's been ejected?

I am by no means an expert on this one, and am in class away from my books, but depending on the length of time he stays or severity of what he says, couldn't it be a T for unsporting acts by disqualified personnel? Would certainly have to be some form of egregious act for me to do it.

I remember the "leaving the court in a timely fashion" thing is mentioned a lot by commentators in the NBA with regard to fines being issued following tosses, but I'm not sure if that is an actual rule or if there is something analogous for Fed.

[Adam]

You can, but I wouldn't. I'd do just as you did.

[Indianaref]

I think you did just fine, I would have done the same.

[icallfouls]

I really don't like it when a partner goes over and tells the coach they have lost the use of the coaches box. I do not have my books with me at the moment and I can't find any reference to it online being the appropriate mechanic.

The coaches know the rule. I would say it is likely the only rule they understand the best.

Even so, in my opinion, you went over to the coach and it only exacerbated the situation. You went to him, he had no place to go to avoid your comment on something he already knows. I think you made the situation worse in that moment.

There is nothing good by going over there. It looks like you are trying to coddle the coach after your partner made a call he disagreed with.

If he needs to be reminded, there is a better way to do it. He probably still needs a moment to collect himself.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

I really don't like it when a partner goes over and tells the coach they have lost the use of the coaches box. I do not have my books with me at the moment and I can't find any reference to it online being the appropriate mechanic.

The coaches know the rule. I would say it is likely the only rule they understand the best.

Even so, in my opinion, you went over to the coach and it only exacerbated the situation. You went to him, he had no place to go to avoid your comment on something he already knows. I think you made the situation worse in that moment.

There is nothing good by going over there. It looks like you are trying to coddle the coach after your partner made a call he disagreed with.

If he needs to be reminded, there is a better way to do it. He probably still needs a moment to collect himself.

I agree and disagree with what you are saying. I think a non-calling official should go over to inform the coach that he/she has lost the coaching box and must remain seated. Some coaches mysteriously forget this rule when it applies to them. The part I don't like from the OP is everything after that. From a distance, it does give the appearance that the official is giving the coach a shoulder to cry on. In this particular situation, getting away from the coach after telling him about the coaches box would have either ended the conversation or made the second T a no-brainer.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

I really don't like it when a partner goes over and tells the coach they have lost the use of the coaches box. I do not have my books with me at the moment and I can't find any reference to it online being the appropriate mechanic.

The coaches know the rule. I would say it is likely the only rule they understand the best.

Even so, in my opinion, you went over to the coach and it only exacerbated the situation. You went to him, he had no place to go to avoid your comment on something he already knows. I think you made the situation worse in that moment.

There is nothing good by going over there. It looks like you are trying to coddle the coach after your partner made a call he disagreed with.

If he needs to be reminded, there is a better way to do it. He probably still needs a moment to collect himself.

You know what happens when you assume...

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Girls V last Friday night. Middle of the third quarter. My partner calls a foul, reports to the table, then T's up Team B head coach. (He said later the coach said to him "At least you're being consistent")

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Here's my question. Obviously after the second T he's gone, but would you have considered giving him a third for sitting there yelling after he's been ejected?

What a fiasco!