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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:43am
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Maybe the Fed should adopt the I1 / I2.
It's a semantics issue. I don't think it would help.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:50pm
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Call it anything else. Flagrant I & II would be fine.

The word intentional is misleading.

"Mr. Ref, he didn't do it on purpose!"
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:54pm
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Call it anything else. Flagrant I & II would be fine.

The word intentional is misleading.

"Mr. Ref, he didn't do it on purpose!"
You get that often? I don't.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:00pm
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You get that often? I don't.
Often, no. The one time that I recall it was quite an issue was one of the very few times I have called intentional for excessive contact.

Actually, the opposite is probably the case. Intentional is not the call when everybody knows that he did do it on purpose.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:28pm
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Often, no. The one time that I recall it was quite an issue was one of the very few times I have called intentional for excessive contact.

Actually, the opposite is probably the case. Intentional is not the call when everybody knows that he did do it on purpose.
And yet no one complains. So what's the problem again?
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:11pm
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And yet no one complains. So what's the problem again?
The problem is that the name is deceptive.


Intentional: Adjective; Done on purpose; deliberate.

An intentional foul is not necessarily done intentionally. Use a term that is neutral.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:37pm
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I get all that, I just don't see it as a problem because the only people who complain about it are officials. Coaches? Nope. Players? Nope. Parents? Who? Fans? Nope.

It maybe be a problem of semantics, but that's it.
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You get that often? I don't.
I get it often enough that the wording needs to be changed as stated above.

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It's a semantics issue. I don't think it would help.
I was just playing along, actually.
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