Team Control

[SAK]

T/F Team A is in control while the ball is loose after B1 deflects a pass from A1 to B2.

Thinking True and using 4-12-2b and 4-12-3b as my citations. Please confirm or give new citations.

[APG]

Coach should reconsider having A1 in the game if he/she is passing the ball to B2

Anyhow, you have it correct.

[SAK]

would have to agree with you on the reconsideration especially if it is an easy pass from his PG.

[BktBallRef]

Are we taking an exam or are you taking an exam, SAK?

[SAK]

I have gone through the exam and am looking for confirmation when I cannot find the rule in the book.

[just another ref]

When you say "gone through" the exam, what does this mean? You taking it online about to hit submit, or you got your finished exam back and going over what you missed, or what?

[BballRookie]

Just another ref,

Since the OP is listing citations do you think it necessary to grill him on what his motives are? All of us are in different stages of our careers, and maybe he needs help with this question.

A lot of people in our association have studied the exam and then met with groups to bounce ideas off of each other and learn from other officials. I guess a test purist could say this is "cheating" but if the end goal is to become a better official why would getting help with questions be that big of a deal?

Personally, I learn a lot more from a group talking things through than I do with a text book. If he listed every single T/F question and asked for an answer that is one thing, but a few questions is no big deal.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SAK

T/F Team A is in control while the ball is loose after B1 deflects a pass from A1 to B2.

Thinking True and using 4-12-2b and 4-12-3b as my citations. Please confirm or give new citations.

What is the definition of team control? What teminates TC?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BballRookie

Just another ref,

Since the OP is listing citations do you think it necessary to grill him on what his motives are? All of us are in different stages of our careers, and maybe he needs help with this question.

A lot of people in our association have studied the exam and then met with groups to bounce ideas off of each other and learn from other officials. I guess a test purist could say this is "cheating" but if the end goal is to become a better official why would getting help with questions be that big of a deal?

Personally, I learn a lot more from a group talking things through than I do with a text book. If he listed every single T/F question and asked for an answer that is one thing, but a few questions is no big deal.

An open book test to me is still a test. If I were in charge of a group of officials, (or group of anything for that matter) I would like to know how they rank in ability based each on his own test score, without assistance. If you are not able to make a strong grade on any rules test on your own with books in hand, I would want to know it.

I will help you all day long as you prepare for the test, but I will not knowingly help you as you actually take the test.

[AKOFL]

Not to hijack the post, but i have another team control question. it came up in discussion tonight. A1 has his dribble interrupted. While trying to recover the ball A1 and B1 are called for a double foul. NO shots and POI. Do we give the ball back to team A as they had team control last or AP throw in? thoughts

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

Not to hijack the post, but i have another team control question. it came up in discussion tonight. A1 has his dribble interrupted. While trying to recover the ball A1 and B1 are called for a double foul. NO shots and POI. Do we give the ball back to team A as they had team control last or AP throw in? thoughts

What changes the status of team control?

[APG]

4-36-2-a answers your question

[BktBallRef]

For those with questions, all you guys need to do is read, understand and learn when team control ends.

Last week, I had a 10 second count going when I saw a volleyball roll into the backcourt and a lady chasing it. Of course, before I can kill the play, B1 gets a hand on the dribble and knocks it away as I blow the whistle.

A know it all asst. coach for Team B told me the team with the arrow should get the ball back.

I gave the ball back to Team A.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

For those with questions, all you guys need to do is read, understand and learn when team control ends.

Last week, I had a 10 second count going when I saw a volleyball roll into the backcourt and a lady chasing it. Of course, before I can kill the play, B1 gets a hand on the dribble and knocks it away as I blow the whistle.

A know it all asst. coach for Team B told me the team with the arrow should get the ball back.

I gave the ball back to Team A.

not sure who you were talking to exactly, but part of learning and understanding for some, involves asking questions and discussing things with others.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

not sure who you were talking to exactly, but part of learning and understanding for some, involves asking questions and discussing things with others.

Exactly. So I'm waiting for an answer to the question i asked you.

Me personally, I don't ask a question until I first look up pertinent rules.