Momentum carrying you OOB?

[jritchie]

Can you come back in and be the first to touch? High school? College?

Example: A1 and B1 chasing down ball toward sideline, both dive on floor after the ball, save ball back in play, while sliding over sideline OOB. A1 hustles to his feet gets back in play and is the first to get the ball? Legal? Reference?

I believe legal because they left by momentum, not of own volition(sp)?

[bob jenkins]

Legal in both and by the reasoning you provided.

[jritchie]

Thought it was too, just couldn't find reference! will look closer to try and find it.

[maven]

Originally Posted by jritchie

Thought it was too, just couldn't find reference! will look closer to try and find it.

Your answer doesn't quite match your question.

Two issues: leaving the court, and returning to touch the ball.

Leaving the court due to momentum, being pushed out, and general basketball play is legal, as you've stated.

That doesn't address the return: provided the player returns immediately inbounds and does not attempt to gain an advantage from being OOB, there is no violation/foul.

As for touching the ball, the player must be inbounds before he may legally touch the ball (something in, nothing out). There is no "establish himself" requirement, only player location (rule 4, player location).

[Raymond]

There is no rules reference stating a player cannot be first to touch other than a throw-in (of course).

Player location is player location, as Maven stated above.

If you leave the court voluntarily it is an immediate violation in NFHS, so touching the ball again would be moot.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jritchie

Thought it was too, just couldn't find reference! will look closer to try and find it.

I swear that I post these every year.

PLAYER OUT OF BOUNDS

7.1.1 SITUATION A:

A1, while holding the ball inbounds near the sideline,

touches (a) player B1; (b) a photographer; (c) a coach; (d) an official, all of whom

are out of bounds.

RULING: A1 is not out of bounds in (a), (b), (c) or (d). To be

out of bounds, A1 must touch the floor or some object on or outside a boundary

line. People are not considered to be objects and play continues. Inadvertently
touching someone who is out of bounds, without gaining an advantage, is not
considered a violation.

7.1.1 SITUATION B:

A1 blocks a pass near the end line. The ball falls to the

floor inbounds, but A1, who is off balance, steps off the court. A1 returns

inbounds, secures control of the ball and dribbles.

RULING: Legal. A1 did not

leave the court voluntarily and did not have control of the ball when he/she did.

This situation is similar to one in which A1 makes a try from under the basket and
momentum carries A1 off the court. If the try is unsuccessful, A1 may come back
onto the court and regain control since A1 did not leave the court voluntarily and
did not have control of the ball when he/she did.

7.1.1 SITUATION C:

A1 blocks a pass near the sideline and the ball goes into

A1’s front court. A1’s momentum carries him/her out of bounds. He/she immediately

returns inbounds, secures control of the ball, dribbles, shoots, and scores.

RULING:

Legal. (4-35-1a; 7-1-2; 9-3)

7.1.1 SITUATION D:

A1 jumps from inbounds to retrieve an errant pass near a
boundary line. A1 catches the ball while in the air and tosses it back to the court.

A1 lands out of bounds and (a) is the first to touch the ball after returning

inbounds; (b) returns inbounds and immediately dribbles the ball; or (c) picks up the ball after returning to the court and then begins a dribble.

RULING: Legal in

(a) and (b). Illegal in (c) as the controlled toss of the ball to the court by A1 constitutes

the start of a dribble, dribbling a second time after picking up the ball is

an illegal dribble violation. (4-15-5; 4-15-6d; 4-35; 9-5)

[tomegun]

Volition -a choice or decision made by the will.

I had this happen on a great defensive play (the player did NOT go out of bounds based on the definition) the first year this rule came out (NCAA). I didn't call the violation and my supervisor, who just so happened to be at the game, told me I should have called it the violation. You know what I said? "OK" and I moved on.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I swear that I post these every year.

And we all thank your for it. In fact, we all look forward to it, like the swallows returning to Capistrano every year.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by jritchie

Can you come back in and be the first to touch? High school? College?

No I can't. I don't play anymore. Too old for high school, and I'm not waiting for any college coach to utilize my remaining four years of college basketball eligibility.

Those who currently play in high school and college, however, can. Without violating.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

I'm not waiting for any college coach to utilize my remaining four years of college basketball eligibility.

I also have four years of college eligibility left. I'm waiting until I decide to get my PhD in chemistry. That scholarship money will certainly help with expenses. I hear that Indiana has a great chemistry department.