Travel on Hail Mary

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Originally Posted by APG

I don't have a travel at any point in this video.

Me either, I have none. I don't see how you could call a travel at any time.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

APG and JumpStop:

Pay close attention to the the White player (w1) who attempted the three-point FG which the Blue player (B10 rebounded and then flung the ball three-fourths of the length of the court for the buzzer beater.

W1 received a pass from W2 with both feet in contact with the court, he then raised his right foot, hopped forward off his left foot with his right foot landing first followed by his left foot, AND then jumped off both feet to shot the three-point FGA. That is traveling.

MTD, Sr.

[jump stop]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

APG and JumpStop:

Pay close attention to the the White player (w1) who attempted the three-point FG which the Blue player (B10 rebounded and then flung the ball three-fourths of the length of the court for the buzzer beater.

W1 received a pass from W2 with both feet in contact with the court

(He recieved pass with left foot on floor- right foot is off floor at :06 ,

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

he then raised his right foot

(foot already raised),

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

hopped forward off his left foot

(correct)

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

with his right foot landing first followed by his left foot

(too close to call hear , initially it looked like no way he could land simultaneously but it was very close, too close to call.,

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

AND then jumped off both feet to shot the three-point FGA

(player allowed to jump and shoot).

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

That is traveling.

MTD, Sr.

Best way to view this is to enlarge screen ,press pause, put mouse arrow on red line and click on :05-07 seconds and you can slowly watch play.

Now if we have to do this to make call , should you really be calling a travel??
You are totally going by the "look " when making this call.
My personal belief is the top rated officials would never call this a travel.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by jump stop

Best way to view this is to enlarge screen ,press pause, put mouse arrow on red line and click on :05-07 seconds and you can slowly watch play.

Now if we have to do this to make call , should you really be calling a travel??
You are totally going by the "look " when making this call.
My personal belief is the top rated officials would never call this a travel.

Lets see. Lifts right foot, jumps off of left foot, lands with his right. Then his left foot returns to the floor, and he didn't pass or shoot the ball prior to the pivot foot returning to the floor. Travel.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by jump stop

Best way to view this is to enlarge screen ,press pause, put mouse arrow on red line and click on :05-07 seconds and you can slowly watch play.

Now if we have to do this to make call , should you really be calling a travel??
You are totally going by the "look " when making this call.
My personal belief is the top rated officials would never call this a travel.

Listen up whippersnapper.

I am 61 years old and this is my 42nd year as a basketball official. During those 42 years I officiated women's college basketball for 34 years (I was the first male to officiate women's college basketball in Florida and one of the first in the Southeast USA; including 18 Div. I playoff games and 20 jr. college playoff games); I officiated men's college basketball for fifteen years; and was a USA Basketball Referee for fifteen years). I have officiated over forty AAU and YBOA Boys' and Girls' National Championship Tournaments including three YBOA Girls' National Championship Games. I have officiated the Ohio Special Olympics Final Four for over twenty straight years and was chosen to officiate in the Special Olympics World Summer Games in 1999. I have been a rules interpreter, instructional chairman, and have served on IAABO National Committees and been a staffer at IAABO Camps.

Any competent basketball official will call that traveling because it was traveling. The first time I watched the play I watched in full size and I called it traveling the first time I saw it. I didn't call it by "feel", I called it because W1 traveled as defined in the rules, and I mean NFHS, NCAA, FIBA, and NBA/WNBA rules; try reading them sometime.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. MTD, Jr., called it traveling too, the first time he saw it and this is only his sixth year of officiating.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

APG and JumpStop:



W1 received a pass from W2 with both feet in contact with the court, he then raised his right foot, hopped forward off his left foot with his right foot landing first followed by his left foot, AND then jumped off both feet to shot the three-point FGA. That is traveling.

MTD, Sr.

I have white catching the ball while airborne.

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Listen up whippersnapper.



Any competent basketball official will call that traveling because it was traveling. The first time I watched the play I watched in full size and I called it traveling the first time I saw it. I didn't call it by "feel", I called it because W1 traveled as defined in the rules, and I mean NFHS, NCAA, FIBA, and NBA/WNBA rules; try reading them sometime.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. MTD, Jr., called it traveling too, the first time he saw it and this is only his sixth year of officiating.

In a game involving major D-I schools, I doubt this type of play is ever going to be called a travel if they viewed it the same way you did.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by APG

I have white catching the ball while airborne.



In a game involving major D-I schools, I doubt this type of play is ever going to be called a travel if they viewed it the same way you did.

APG:

Come on. You are better official than that. Personally, the T was too close to the play and therefore did not have a good Vertical V look at W1's FGA.

Got to run (MTD, Jr., calls it a power stroll) and get ready to officiate two boys' 10U Elite games at 08:30am in the Toledo Park & Rec. league and then get ready to watch my Better Half's alma mater (The University of Toledo Rockets) do battle with the Utah State University Aggies in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. Go Rockets!

MTD, Jr.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

APG:

Come on. You are better official than that. Personally, the T was too close to the play and therefore did not have a good Vertical V look at W1's FGA.

Got to run (MTD, Jr., calls it a power stroll) and get ready to officiate two boys' 10U Elite games at 08:30am in the Toledo Park & Rec. league and then get ready to watch my Better Half's alma mater (The University of Toledo Rockets) do battle with the Utah State University Aggies in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. Go Rockets!

MTD, Jr.

Holy Toledo, they got smoked!