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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 11:40am
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Travel on Hail Mary

Is there a travel on the hail mary?

If so, would you call it? Before or after it goes in?

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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 11:49am
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I dont see a travel
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 11:59am
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I don't see a travel either.

If there was a travel you call it the second the person travels. Don't wait to see if the ball goes in. Just like if you're not going to count it because time expires kill it immediately.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 12:07pm
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i don't see a travel either.

If there was a travel you call it the second the person travels. Don't wait to see if the ball goes in. Just like if you're not going to count it because time expires kill it immediately.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 12:20pm
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travel? where?.....if I watched this 100 times, I wouldn't be able to find a travel.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 12:31pm
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I don't see a travel either.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 12:33pm
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Nope. But if it was, you call it right away, no need to wait for the ball to travel 90 feet.

It looks like, maybe, he got it with his left foot down and his right up, then steps with the left, but I'm saying maybe after watching it a dozen times in replay. Real time, first time, it wasn't something I'd even think.about.

Is that what the coach is bullhorning about?
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Nope. But if it was, you call it right away, no need to wait for the ball to travel 90 feet.

It looks like, maybe, he got it with his left foot down and his right up, then steps with the left, but I'm saying maybe after watching it a dozen times in replay. Real time, first time, it wasn't something I'd even think.about.

Is that what the coach is bullhorning about?
Agree. That is pretty much what I thought. I slow motion stop frame, he only "may" have traveled...and if it is till that close upon review, the play on the field stands as called.

The coach may have been pleading that time expired. It didn't but the release was about 0.1 or 0.2....about as close as you can get without it being too late.
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Echo: I don't have a travel.
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Nope. But if it was, you call it right away, no need to wait for the ball to travel 90 feet.

It looks like, maybe, he got it with his left foot down and his right up, then steps with the left, but I'm saying maybe after watching it a dozen times in replay. Real time, first time, it wasn't something I'd even think.about.

Is that what the coach is bullhorning about?
I happen to have no idea. I just thought it was close and it was a great play.
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Definite ???

If you're sure that he traveled, then sound you whistle right away. If you're not sure that he traveled, then don't call it, and enjoy the show.
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If you have a travel then explain the rule he violated. He gathered the ball with one foot on the ground(his right foot). If he gathered the ball with one foot on floor he has 3 options:
1) he can remain standing on one foot (which he didn't)
2) He can jump off of this foot and land on 2 feet simultaneously( which he didn't )
3) He can step with other foot(his left foot), thus establishing pivot foot( foot that was first on ground when he caught ball, right foot) , he can then pick up pivot foot (which he did) but he must release ball with pass or shot(which he did).

You have to be able to explain using these rules to the core. These rules are well thought out and genius. Amazing how many people don't understand these. They just go by "it looks like a travel" .

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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 09:54pm
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If you have a travel then explain the rule he violated. He gathered the ball with one foot on the ground(his right foot). If he gathered the ball with one foot on floor he has 3 options:
1) he can remain standing on one foot (which he didn't)
2) He can jump off of this foot and land on 2 feet simultaneously( which he didn't )
3) He can step with other foot(his left foot), thus establishing pivot foot( foot that was first on ground when he caught ball, right foot) , he can then pick up pivot foot (which he did) but he must release ball with pass or shot(which he did).

You have to be able to explain using these rules to the core. These rules are well thought out and genius. Amazing how many people don't understand these. They just go by "it looks like a travel" .
Your initial premise is not a given. If the officials had called a travel and said the ball was gathered sooner, with the left foot down, I couldn't argue with that based on the video.
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Looks like the big kid with the ball at the beginning of the clip travels ...
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I did see a travel, but it was by the White player who attempted the three-point FGA that Blue rebounded just prior to flinging the ball toward Blue's basketball for the buzzer beater.

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