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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 01:06pm
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It was right here.
Read my post again.
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No is the answer. Check right before the end, look at the running score and verify everyone matches. Tell them that they need to let you know if there's an issue.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 01:27pm
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No is the answer. Check right before the end, look at the running score and verify everyone matches. Tell them that they need to let you know if there's an issue.
The reason I ask is that it seems this procedure failed this time but maybe a contingency to handle two inept score keepers is not really feasible.
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The reason I ask is that it seems this procedure failed this time but maybe a contingency to handle two inept score keepers is not really feasible.
The OP admitted they didn't actually look, they just asked everyone if they matched. My take away is to actually look with my own eyes.
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Works for me. Good thread overall, thanks.
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The OP admitted they didn't actually look, they just asked everyone if they matched. My take away is to actually look with my own eyes.
That is too much work. If their is a problem the teams need to monitor this themselves and if there is an issue make it clear to the officials to find the mistake. Otherwise double checking everything is silly to me. I have had coaches go crazy when they feel a point was not awarded in the middle of the game so if they allow that to take place with the final score, same on them. Because even if you look you do not know there was a mistake made or someone was not deliberately making a mistake. I know of almost no officials that I have worked with that do this or suggest to do this.

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That is too much work. If their is a problem the teams need to monitor this themselves and if there is an issue make it clear to the officials to find the mistake. Otherwise double checking everything is silly to me. I have had coaches go crazy when they feel a point was not awarded in the middle of the game so if they allow that to take place with the final score, same on them. Because even if you look you do not know there was a mistake made or someone was not deliberately making a mistake. I know of almost no officials that I have worked with that do this or suggest to do this.

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A quick glance at the running score isn't that much work.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 02:15pm
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The OP admitted they didn't actually look, they just asked everyone if they matched. My take away is to actually look with my own eyes.
R: OK, you guys match?
VSC: Yes.
HSC: Yes sir. We've both got...
R: OK, see ya next time. Thanks guys.
HSC: 59-59, wait, where's he going?
VSC: I don't know. Should we stop him?
HSC: I don't know, maybe he's got to get something before overtime...
VSC: Weird. Hey, where'd you go to get your shirt?
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 04:25pm
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The OP admitted they didn't actually look, they just asked everyone if they matched. My take away is to actually look with my own eyes.
Not necessary, nor your job per the rules book.

The scorer and timer need to be trusted to do their duties. If they don't, then the school administration and the state office will sort it out.

I'm not going over and looking at the book before leaving.

Edit: Allow me to be clear--the referee does have a duty to "check and approve" the score at the end of each half. What constitutes this is not clearly defined (perhaps one could contend that leaving the visual confines amounts to this, but that is doubtful even with that text), but I've never heard anyone state that it means physically looking at the book oneself. The NCAA has a protocol which merely involves making eye contact with the scorer and then moving off the court unless the scorer alerts the R to a problem.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 04:28pm
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not necessary, nor your job per the rules book.

The scorer and timer need to be trusted to do their duties. If they don't, then the school administration and the state office will sort it out.

I'm not going over and looking at the book before leaving.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 04:33pm
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Me either. How many people ever actually do this?
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