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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 02:59pm
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You are totally correct...I just phrased it wrong. I apologize for that. I'm in my 9th year of varsity and I should have worded it better.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 03:00pm
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Why doesn't the "off" official come to the throw-in spot instead the administering official leaving the ball?
That's what usually happens, but sometimes the official at the throwin spot will initiate the conference, and he probably doesn't want to use the unapproved "come hither" signal. We also like to have one person near the division line to deal questions regarding substitutes, team fouls, timeouts, clock issues, when do we get our checks, where's the nearest local joint where we can get an adult beverage after the game, etc.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 03:07pm
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That's what usually happens, but sometimes the official at the throwin spot will initiate the conference, and he probably doesn't want to use the "come hither" signal. We also like to have one person near the division line to deal questions regarding substitutes, team fouls, timeouts, clock issues, when do we get our checks, etc.
I've always been taught not to leave the throw-in spot vacated. Any questions that MAY come up with the table can be dealt with before or after going to the throw-in spot.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 03:19pm
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Others on the Forum, in the past, have criticized me on this point before. Thirty-two years. No one has ever moved the basketball. Never ever.
I have no idea what you do in your area, I just stated what I would not do. Around here there are student sections that would move the ball if you gave them the opportunity and cheerleaders that pay little attention when a timeout is called. So in my experience all it takes is one time and I would not want to take that chance. Remember you said you still work 2 Person in your state so who knows what kind of attention to basketball your state might have. Here I would be scared if I put the ball down and some cheerleader fell over the ball. BTW, I had seen a cheerleader almost trip over a ball before and it was not in my game. As always, do what works for you, but I would not do that here, EVER!!!

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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 03:27pm
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That's what usually happens, but sometimes the official at the throwin spot will initiate the conference, and he probably doesn't want to use the unapproved "come hither" signal. We also like to have one person near the division line to deal questions regarding substitutes, team fouls, timeouts, clock issues, when do we get our checks, wheres the nearest local joint where we can get an adult beverage after the game, etc.

You are saying that people in your state regulate what signal a partner to "come here?" Wow is all I have to say.

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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 03:33pm
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I would suggest you discuss this in pregame - no matter how many times you work with someone. Know the status of the ball before granting a timeout and know the position for the throw-in before reporting to the table. Every time, the same thing.

I also would not relay any information. If I grant the timeout, I will report the timeout to the table.

Did you have any feeling that things weren't totally right during the entire game? If so, could you have made sure your communication was on point in a situation like this? If those officials aren't as experienced as you, then the assignor may have put you on the game to keep things like this from happening (assuming you work in a system that would allow that). I know I will assign myself or the assistant crew chief as the U2 to give someone else an opportunity to be the R. If something isn't right during the game I'm sure not going to keep quiet because I'm not the R.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 03:35pm
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That's what usually happens, but sometimes the official at the throwin spot will initiate the conference, and he probably doesn't want to use the unapproved "come hither" signal. We also like to have one person near the division line to deal questions regarding substitutes, team fouls, timeouts, clock issues, when do we get our checks, wheres the nearest local joint where we can get an adult beverage after the game, etc.
Sometimes the Connecticut jokes and other humor get in the way of getting your point across. This may be one of those times. The whole unapproved "come hither" signal thing is a joke isn't it?
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 03:38pm
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I know I will assign myself or the assistant crew chief as the U2 to give someone else an opportunity to be the R. If something isn't right during the game I'm sure not going to keep quiet because I'm not the R.
This is the very reason assignors at higher levels are looking for Rs and not U1s and U2s so they can have those step up and handle these situations without being prompted.

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sometimes the connecticut jokes and other humor get in the way of getting your point across. This may be one of those times. The whole unapproved "come hither" signal thing is a joke isn't it? :d
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Sometimes the Connecticut jokes and other humor get in the way of getting your point across. This may be one of those times. The whole unapproved "come hither" signal thing is a joke isn't it?
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You are saying that people in your state regulate what signal a partner to "come here?
Yeah. That's right. We're trying to get the "come hither" signal approved here in Connecticut. We won't push too hard because we don't want to lose our NFHS voting rights.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 05:03pm
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I also would not relay any information. If I grant the timeout, I will report the timeout to the table.
IAABO mechanics won't allow us to do that. In fact, I believe that back when we used NFHS mechanics, a change was made, also not allowing us to do that, i.e bumping the timeout. But, then again, I know more about quantum physics than I do about recent NFHS mechanics.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 05:06pm
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Yeah. That's right. We're trying to get the "come hither" signal approved here in Connecticut. We won't push too hard because we don't want to lose our NFHS voting rights.
Why would you need approval for a method of communication? Next thing you are going to tell me if I signal that we have 1 and 1 I have to use an approved method. I guess I would just be wrong then.

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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 05:09pm
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Yeah. That's right. We're trying to get the "come hither" signal approved here in Connecticut. We won't push too hard because we don't want to lose our NFHS voting rights.
The NFHS doesn't care if you modify mechanics...just game rules.
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IAABO mechanics won't allow us to do that. In fact, I believe that back when we used NFHS mechanics, a change was made, also not allowing us to do that, i.e bumping the timeout. But, then again, I know more about quantum physics than I do about recent NFHS mechanics.
We bump a timeout. Never had an evaluater say anything about it.
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