Say what? - Page 3

BillyMac · #31 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 05:58pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun

Sometimes the Connecticut jokes and other humor get in the way of getting your point across.

Agree.

My point: If a official with the basketball (or just the basketball, which is rarely used, but acceptable, in my little corner of Connecticut) is at the throwin spot, then there will never be a problem with a coach not knowing where the throwin will occur.

JRutledge · #32 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 06:01pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree.

My point: If a official with the basketball (or just the basketball, which is rarely used, but acceptable, in my little corner of Connecticut) is at the throwin spot, then there will never be a problem with a coach not knowing where the throwin will occur.

You cannot just tell them?

Peace

BillyMac · #33 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 06:01pm

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Originally Posted by Cameron Rust

The NFHS doesn't care if you modify mechanics...just game rules.

I misspoke. Connecticut uses IAABO approved signals.

BillyMac · #34 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 06:03pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

I know more about quantum physics than I do about recent NFHS mechanics.

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Originally Posted by OKREF

We bump a timeout. Never had an evaluater say anything about it.

Allowed under NFHS mechanics, or just a local mechanic?

JRutledge · #35 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 06:05pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

Allowed under NFHS mechanics, or just a local mechanic?

Not everything is regulated by mechanics.

Peace

BillyMac · #36 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 06:06pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

You cannot just tell them?

If they ask, the official at the division line simply points to his partner, who has the basketball at the throwin spot. If they don't ask, we don't offer the information.

BillyMac · #37 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 06:09pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not everything is regulated by mechanics.

Thus my reference to a "local mechanic". Here in Connecticut we point to the three point line when a shooter has stepped on the line. We also use the "hard foul" signal. I believe that both are local to Connecticut, and are not approved by IAABO.

tomegun · #38 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 06:51pm

Dear God, thank you for ordering my steps in locations other than Connecticut. It is not that the state or the people are bad. It is just that I like to officiate and I know that there are some things in officiating that are important and some that aren't. You know me better than anyone else and you know nitpicking at me about those small things would not work out too well.

Amen.

JRutledge · #39 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 07:00pm

Again, it is not a "mechanic" to signal to your partner to come to you. Or better yet there are not mechanics that I am aware of that suggest we even talk. Not everything is a mechanic if we choose to do so or even communicate on some things. It just drives me crazy when people worry about what is approved than officiating. You are telling me someone in your area is going to get upset because someone signaled their partner to come to them? This sounds about as silly as when I was signaling a 1 and 1 to my partner in a summer game and one of my partners who has a problem getting varsity games of any kind, was worried about the way I held my hands and the fact that my fingers were not perfectly straight. He did this while not worrying about why he missed a BC violation which he was the Trail and was the only one that had the match-up in question. Maybe I am wrong, but I guess I will never understand why people always worry about what is a mechanic rather than learning to just do your job. And if I have to signal to my partner to come and talk with me, I doubt anyone I have ever been around would give a damn if the mechanic is in the book at either the HS or college level. Never had anyone complain at a camp for sure.

BTW, many officials I know and work with use the pointing to the floor signal all the time. No one cares if it is not listed anywhere. There are bigger fish to fry I guess. And no we are not IAABO affiliated at all.

Peace

bob jenkins · #40 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 07:03pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Again, it is not a "mechanic" to signal to your partner to come to you. Or better yet there are not mechanics that I am aware of that suggest we even talk. Not everything is a mechanic if we choose to do so or even communicate on some things.

+1

I'll add that there are times to deviate from the "officially approved" mechanics. Just know why you are doing it and (as appropriate) be sure all officials are on the same page.

fullor30 · #41 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 07:05pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

If they ask, the official at the division line simply points to his partner, who has the basketball at the throwin spot. If they don't ask, we don't offer the information.

If I'm calling official on TO, I try and always tell coach or asst where they are inbounding and always try and look and communciate with partners where the throw in will take place. I may miss it on occasion but will ALWAYS do in a tight situation. Just being proactive.

APG · #42 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 07:16pm

I refuse to believe any of that (regarding Connecticut).

OKREF · #43 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 07:24pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

Allowed under NFHS mechanics, or just a local mechanic?

Local mechanic. NFHS does say the mechanic is for the official who called the timeout to administer the time out. However, if I on the endline call the timeout and we are going the length of the floor, my partner will administer the timeout and I would stay where the ball will be inbounded, preventing a "long switch". Saves steps. We always have one person at the spot of the throw in during any time out. There is no dispute as to where the ball will be inbounded.

JRutledge · #44 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 07:25pm

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Originally Posted by APG

I refuse to believe any of that (regarding Connecticut).

I am starting to agree with this position the more and more I read about those issues.

Peace

BillyMac · #45 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 03, 2012, 07:59pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

You are telling me someone in your area is going to get upset because someone signaled their partner to come to them? This sounds about as silly ... if I have to signal to my partner to come and talk with me, I doubt anyone I have ever been around would give a damn if the mechanic is in the book.

I was being facetious. It was obviously very poorly worded, and I apologize for taking up your time with a my silliness. At least tomegun got it. The clue should have been "Trying To Get The Frankenstein's Monster Signal Approved Also".

Again, my point, that I certainly could have done a much beter job of expressing: If a official with the basketball (or just the basketball, which is rarely used, but acceptable, in my little corner of Connecticut) is at the throwin spot, then there will never be a problem with a coach not knowing where the throwin will occur.
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