False Double

[just another ref]

Tonight, watching BV, A1 drives to the basket, commits what I thought was a charge against B1. Officials hesitates, really doesn't give a signal at all until he goes to the table, then reports a foul on B2, who, according to others, had come over the top in a block attempt.

My question, if you are the official on this play, and see B2 with the hack, followed by A1 with the charge, can you see yourself reporting both?

My thought is that the charge ultimately kills the play, thereby nullifying any disadvantage caused by the contact on the block attempt.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Tonight, watching BV, A1 drives to the basket, commits what I thought was a charge against B1. Officials hesitates, really doesn't give a signal at all until he goes to the table, then reports a foul on B2, who, according to others, had come over the top in a block attempt.

My question, if you are the official on this play, and see B2 with the hack, followed by A1 with the charge, can you see yourself reporting both?

My thought is that the charge ultimately kills the play, thereby nullifying any disadvantage caused by the contact on the block attempt.

If I'm reading correctly B2 with hack followed by 'charge'? Whistle blows, foul on B2.....end of play.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

If I'm reading correctly B2 with hack followed by 'charge'? Whistle blows, foul on B2.....end of play.

I guess I should have stated more clearly that A1 was, I believe, an airborne shooter.


Come to think of it, I think this is a casebook play, or very similar to one.

Yep 4.19.9 Situation A

[Camron Rust]

By rule, you could certainly come up with both since the defensive foul doesn't make the ball dead (continuous motion). However, both would have to be very substantial for me to actually do that...and to date it has never happened.

What happens more often than not is that the official either stays with the first one or sometimes goes with just the charge since it was probably the bigger more obvious foul.

[BillyMac]

Does the defensive "hack" change the motion of the offensive player to cause the charge?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Does the defensive "hack" change the motion of the offensive player to cause the charge?

I don't believe it does.