Offensive Leg Kick Out on 3pt Shot

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

If the shooter stuck his arm out as the defender went by and made contact, would you call a foul on the defender?

Possibly.....the ball that is being shot is often at the end of those arm.

For me, it would really depend on how far out that leg was extended. There is some amount that i would consider reasonable for a given shot and some greater amount that I would not.

In the video shown above with as much as I could see in the limited views, I wouldn't call an offensive foul and would probably call one on the defender. The shooters foot was not unreasonably extended as Reggie Miller frequently did and the defender did, with no semblance of LGP, move such that he clipped his foot and cause him to fall.

[26 Year Gap]

I have an easy call on the defender who did not have LGP moving into the shooter.

[rockyroad]

Why in the world is the L making that call on a three point shot???

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Why in the world is the L making that call on a three point shot???

Dang it. rockyroad was reading my mind. That was the 1st thing I though. Why is lead looking there? That's is why they pay him the big bucks and I am doing lower level High School games.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Why in the world is the L making that call on a three point shot???

Because the Lead is asked to take a look at those plays right in front of them. And many supervisors want the lead to make sure from their angle are not getting hit on the shot at the NCAA Men's level.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Because the Lead is asked to take a look at those plays right in front of them. And many supervisors want the lead to make sure from their angle are not getting hit on the shot at the NCAA Men's level.

Peace

That wasn't right in front of him...he moved out there and took that play for no valid reason.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

That wasn't right in front of him...he moved out there and took that play for no valid reason.

You are missing the point. It happen right on the end line and if he is positioned properly anyway, that is where he would be located. That is the way it is taught. Now you can disagree and that is fine, but just stating what is taught and expected at that level. In the HS game this is not the case often, but there are many that suggest the Lead should be there to take a peak on a shooter near the end line. Part of the logic is if the player gets fouled, who are they going to say should have seen the contact?

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You are missing the point. It happen right on the end line and if he is positioned properly anyway, that is where he would be located. That is the way it is taught. Now you can disagree and that is fine, but just stating what is taught and expected at that level. In the HS game this is not the case often, but there are many that suggest the Lead should be there to take a peak on a shooter near the end line. Part of the logic is if the player gets fouled, who are they going to say should have seen the contact?

Peace

Gonna have to disagree here...this was an end line throw-in, and the L was inside the thrower...as soon as the ball was thrown in, the L started walking toward the shooter, and made the call from a horrible position. I understand that if the L was already in "wide angle" ( if it is still called that) that he could take a look at the play to help out. This L completely left his PCA and went out there and made a questionable call out of his area. And that seems to happen a lot in NCAA Men's coverage. Jmo...

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by jrutledge

you are missing the point. It happen right on the end line and if he is positioned properly anyway, that is where he would be located. That is the way it is taught. Now you can disagree and that is fine, but just stating what is taught and expected at that level. In the hs game this is not the case often, but there are many that suggest the lead should be there to take a peak on a shooter near the end line. Part of the logic is if the player gets fouled, who are they going to say should have seen the contact?

peace

+1

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Possibly.....the ball that is being shot is often at the end of those arm.

How the hell is an arm that's extended out holding a ball that's already been shot???????

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

How the hell is an arm that's extended out holding a ball that's already been shot???????

Where did anyone say the ball was necessarily already shot? It may have been, but I've see the action being talked about just as much while the shooter still has the ball.