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Old Sat Dec 01, 2012, 11:38pm
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Could be a symptom of watching.it on a four inch screen, but I'm not convinced the.defender wouldn't have hit the shooter anyway.
This video might be a poor representation of the scenario I laid out in text, it more or less triggered me remembering that I have seen the call I described many times in the past and never being able to justify it by the rulebook.

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Old Sat Dec 01, 2012, 11:44pm
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I do not see a foul.
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Old Sun Dec 02, 2012, 12:07am
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This video might be a poor representation of the scenario I laid out in text, it more or less triggered me remembering that I have seen the call I described many times in the past and never being able to justify it by the rulebook.
Ok, you've got a defender moving towards the shooter, who has no vertical restriction, and tripping the shooter. (There's your rule justification.)
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Old Sun Dec 02, 2012, 12:36am
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Ok, you've got a defender moving towards the shooter, who has no vertical restriction, and tripping the shooter. (There's your rule justification.)
If the shooter stuck his arm out as the defender went by and made contact, would you call a foul on the defender?
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Old Sun Dec 02, 2012, 04:54am
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If the shooter stuck his arm out as the defender went by and made contact, would you call a foul on the defender?
Possibly.....the ball that is being shot is often at the end of those arm.

For me, it would really depend on how far out that leg was extended. There is some amount that i would consider reasonable for a given shot and some greater amount that I would not.

In the video shown above with as much as I could see in the limited views, I wouldn't call an offensive foul and would probably call one on the defender. The shooters foot was not unreasonably extended as Reggie Miller frequently did and the defender did, with no semblance of LGP, move such that he clipped his foot and cause him to fall.
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I have an easy call on the defender who did not have LGP moving into the shooter.
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Why in the world is the L making that call on a three point shot???
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Old Sun Dec 02, 2012, 11:20am
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Why in the world is the L making that call on a three point shot???
Dang it. rockyroad was reading my mind. That was the 1st thing I though. Why is lead looking there? That's is why they pay him the big bucks and I am doing lower level High School games.
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Old Sun Dec 02, 2012, 11:37am
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Why in the world is the L making that call on a three point shot???
Because the Lead is asked to take a look at those plays right in front of them. And many supervisors want the lead to make sure from their angle are not getting hit on the shot at the NCAA Men's level.

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Old Sun Dec 02, 2012, 11:35am
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Possibly.....the ball that is being shot is often at the end of those arm.

How the hell is an arm that's extended out holding a ball that's already been shot???????
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Old Sun Dec 02, 2012, 03:04pm
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How the hell is an arm that's extended out holding a ball that's already been shot???????
Where did anyone say the ball was necessarily already shot? It may have been, but I've see the action being talked about just as much while the shooter still has the ball.
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